Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by commandlinefan on Friday February 19, 2021 @02:31PM
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Shadowbanning seems a bit fraudulent as well: advertisers are led to believe there's a particular level and type of engagement on the platform, but it's at least partly false.
Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by 4bpp on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:34PM
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Shadowbans are a very useful tool against human-powered disruptive activity (sockpuppetry and what-not), because they shift the effort asymmetry to favour the attacker a bit less than it tends to do otherwise. (Given the possibility of being shadowbanned, the attacker has to either constantly check that the fruits of their labour are still accessible, or risk wasting work posting into the void on an account that has already been null-routed)
That this technology, when available, invariably winds up being used against good-faith users seems to be the usual grubby-fingers problem where the powerful take away from the commons of social trust for a temporary advantage, akin to police using COVID contact tracing data to chase small-time drug dealers.
Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by webmobdev on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:22PM
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I face this issue regularly on Reddit. I've noticed two things:
1. Sometimes it is accidental and some automated filter does this.
2. Sometimes it is done by a mod who didn't like what you posted, and shadowbans the post instead of deleting it. The hope is that you don't find out about this because otherwise you may enquire about the decision, and other mods will get involved in discussing it and over-rule the previous decision.
Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by XiJInPaddington on Friday February 19, 2021 @05:05PM
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I wish this site would be less heavy handed when it comes to shadow banning. It seems like a significant number of comments ends up getting shadow banned and I find it both frustrating and a bit insulting. Compared to here, Reddit is an oasis of free speech.
Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by millerm on Friday February 19, 2021 @05:57PM
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I had an account for YEARS here. One day I was shadow banned because I accidentally responded to the wrong comment, it was just out of context, and boom. Found out a f’n year later when some nice person told me I was banned. I spent so much time and effort “helping” people for nothing during that year. I don’t help anymore as that was a d** move. I’ll probably be banned again for this comment.
Re:Shadowbanning: The secret censoring by social media
by whatever_dude on Friday February 19, 2021 @07:56PM
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I had a similar thing happen to me, not here but on Reddit. Was shadowbanned for no reason (never learned what it was) on an account where i treated everybody with respect. I created a new account, but from that day on i started behaving like shit on the website. I knew accounts were worth nothing if they could get randomly shadowbanned so I started acting like so.
That this technology, when available, invariably winds up being used against good-faith users seems to be the usual grubby-fingers problem where the powerful take away from the commons of social trust for a temporary advantage, akin to police using COVID contact tracing data to chase small-time drug dealers.
1. Sometimes it is accidental and some automated filter does this.
2. Sometimes it is done by a mod who didn't like what you posted, and shadowbans the post instead of deleting it. The hope is that you don't find out about this because otherwise you may enquire about the decision, and other mods will get involved in discussing it and over-rule the previous decision.