The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes

Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @08:20AM (#26192818)

I hope they have strong clauses about the usage of their models in porn. I created the 3D Avatar Store, now closed, back in 2010 with ML-based auto-generation of full body 3D characters. I am also good friends with the author of Poser. Both of us have had porn producers as major users of the technology. I was unable to acquire the financing I needed to take my working system to a wider audience due to potential investors continually desiring to go into porn.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by alazoral on Friday February 19, 2021 @09:32AM (#26193527)

My guy, this is Epic Games. They make Fortnite, one of the most popular pieces of media ever, with billions of dollars of revenue a year from selling avatar hats to hundreds of millions of users. You don't have to worry about their investors.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:02AM (#26193880)

Yeah, I know who they are. I also know the immense size and power of the pornography industry and the immense efforts it requires to get stockholders and investors to ethically deny hundreds of millions in potential revenues.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Friday February 19, 2021 @08:28AM (#26192904)

And you are... opposed to virtual people doinking?

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:00AM (#26193858)

Not at all, but I am opposed to a generally available technology that enables ordinary people to create DeepFakes of pornography with photos of friends, family, co-workers, anyone they can acquire a photograph. I am opposed to such a system because I know how it will be abused and cause misery for hundreds of millions of unexpecting women.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:49AM (#26194367)

Sounds unlikely to me. We have artists, and yet there's not outpouring of hand drawn porn without consent featuring real people. I'm sure it will happen to some extent. But hundreds of millions of women? Doubtful.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:27PM (#26195457)

I don't think you realize the impact of such a technology on society in general.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Friday February 19, 2021 @02:04PM (#26196660)

And I don't think you realize the impact either. This feels like it falls squarely in the camp of worrying that people will trick self driving cars to murder people. Good news is most people aren't murderers. https://xkcd.com/1958/

Most people aren't interested in sharing slanderous deep fake porn of others online either. There are social consequences to trying that and getting caught. And if they do, metahuman porn certainly is not going to be fooling many people.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:11PM (#26197488)

I does not require many women or men to be affected for a mass negative reaction by the public. Just today a Hacker News post was about the author of Curl receiving threats. Would you like to be the guy that enables POS people to embed others into porn, for profit? That was what every pool of investors ultimately wanted to do.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Saturday February 20, 2021 @03:59PM (#26207906)

I really don't care if someone creates a service to create a custom porn simulator. I don't think society would care either. People have been free to imagine others in sexual encounters since the dawn of time. The human experience won't radically be changed by rendering it on a screen.

There's a possible risk in pretending these videos are real and trying to slut shame people, but I'd bet against those being common or successful.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Sunday February 21, 2021 @07:51AM (#26213108)

Ask 2-3 women you consider very beautiful what they'd think of such a service, and then what that'd think of the people who created it. Ask them if they've ever had a stalker - many beautiful women have, and many attractive men have too. The issues around unwanted sexual advances is far more prevalent and dangerous than you imagine. If you honestly look into this issue, you may learn something.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @08:41AM (#26237091)

It's unfortunate that people have stalkers. I don't see metahumans as likely to exacerbate that problem.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by anotherman554 on Friday February 19, 2021 @01:12PM (#26196025)

Is your technology particularly suited to deepfakes? Most graphic technology is just used to create fictional characters.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by bsenftner on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:08PM (#26197461)

I wrote and acquired a global patent on a VFX process for mass production of short form video with select actors automatically replaced with anyone. I bit more involved than face replacements, it was a film VFX derived process. My intent was personalized advertising. A portion of the process is the creation of a digital double of a person given at little as one photo. I had the pipeline working and was seeking partnerships.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by klmadfejno on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @08:43AM (#26237108)

I find your perspective really funny. Personalized advertising sounds MUCH WORSE than niche custom porn to me.

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Re:The MetaHumans: High-fidelity digital humans in minutes by visarga on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:47AM (#26194346)

> hundreds of millions of unexpecting women

Such empathy.. for half the population. They should ban research into female sexual avatars.

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