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Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by vbezhenar on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:47PM (#26186901)
Just wait until they'll limit ML/DL using those heuristics because you're supposed to buy specialized hardware and let gamers play their games.

First they came for the miners, and I did not speak out.

Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by buildbot on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:24PM (#26187812)
If I recall correctly; they already do this by really limiting mixed precision performance on the GeForce line. I believe Titans typically where excluded, but otherwise for full FP16 support you needed a Quadro or Tesla card.
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by zaptrem on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:31AM (#26190101)
Is that limitation in hardware or software? I always thought it was a physical difference in chip design.
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by liuliu on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:57PM (#26187008)
Yes, that is worrying. But, they already have license in place to ensure no one uses their gaming GPUs in the cloud, where the big money is already. (And it worked, I cannot find any low-cost cloud providers with gaming GPUs for GPGPU computing).

I hope they don't, given that there is limited upside and a lot of push back from dev community.

Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by wruza on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:35PM (#26187896)
So let’s wait until BTC hits $100k and a generic videocard for any purpose costs $5000. That would be much better than paying extra $200 over MSRP for ML. /s
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by xur17 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:05PM (#26188158)
People are not mining Bitcoin on videocards.
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by wruza on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:39PM (#26188433)
But BTC price influences all crypto. Read it as “ETH hits $5k” if that matters.
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by anonisko on Thursday February 18, 2021 @11:33PM (#26189778)
That would suck in the short term, but it would also be a HUGE incentive to massively ramp up chip fabrication capacity, leading to long term cost decrease due to economies of scale.
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by tinco on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:28PM (#26188338)
What ML card are you buying that is only $200 over its gaming equivalent?
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by wruza on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:47PM (#26188503)
I don’t, that was a blind guess that missed. Insert a real extra and compare to the prospect of crypto prices rising and nvidia doing nothing. What would ML people gain from that while gamers lose all?
Re:Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3... by tinco on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:58PM (#26188576)
Yeah, the ML example doesn't really work because we're already paying through the nose for the privilege of running GPU's in production processes. This development is really nothing new, Nvidia and ATI (and Intel and AMD) have always charged extra for their "professional" lineups usually enforced through software alone or even just the EULA.