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Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by keiferski on Thursday February 18, 2021 @10:33AM (#26180975)
Of course human societies will still have issues. But the option of exiting will exist, as will the option of just going off on your own.
Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by joubert on Thursday February 18, 2021 @11:19AM (#26181711)
The article had this but that stood out to me:

“It isn’t possible for everyone to live on principle; as a practical matter, many of us must make compromises in asymmetrical relationships, without the control or consent for which we might wish.”

Even if you could just “go off on your own into space”, you will likely need to transact with other humans in order to survive. Put differently, I think while it is an “option” in principle, it isn’t in reality.

Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by keiferski on Thursday February 18, 2021 @12:22PM (#26182649)
The ability to walk away is perhaps the single most effective negotiation tactic. Simple as that.

In MBA land they call it BATNA. Best alternative to a negotiated agreement.

Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by ccsnags on Thursday February 18, 2021 @11:05AM (#26181494)
I think you are correct.

The more accessible opting out becomes, the more leverage regulator people will have when negotiating with the dominant social order.

Space travel like this is down the road, but it’s only a long road if you are thinking in terms of your own finite existence.

Also, opting out is in demand. From a more immediate perspective, I think that there is a lot of room for innovation around personal privacy and opting out. No system created by humans is permanent. More surveillance means that humans will create systems to subvert it or render it useless. This has already happened in many ways.

A system is nicer to its people when they are there voluntarily. These changes will also work to improve the quality of life of those in the system as well as those outside of it.