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Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:23PM (#26171978)
That’s what I was telling a friend who’s against social media the other day. Without social media there would be no gay marriage. Social medias amplify minority issues.
Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by giantDinosaur on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @08:50PM (#26174488)
That's a somewhat odd statement. Gay marriage was legalised in several countries before the advent of what we consider social media (Facebook etc.) - and a lot of other social change happened well before computers were even a thing, let alone instantaneous communication. Can you expand on what you mean?
Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Thursday February 18, 2021 @05:51PM (#26186936)
My theory is that social changes happen when things get really bad for enough people, so minorities are often excluded or it takes a lot of time for them to get their voice heard/change to happen.

Do you have a source on a country that legalized gay marriage without social networks? I’m not saying it can’t happen but that would put a dent in my theory. I think Taiwan had it happen before FB but they have what I would consider social networks before we did.

Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by giantDinosaur on Friday February 19, 2021 @01:48AM (#26190425)
Netherlands - 2001, Belgium - 2003, Spain, Canada - 2005

Taiwan was very recent - 2019.

I'll grant that none of these were before the internet but there's nothing uniquely special about gay marriage that required the internet for organising, a huge amount of activism was done in person, just like in various other civil rights movements in assorted countries pre-internet.

Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Saturday February 20, 2021 @04:02AM (#26202793)
Interesting! Actually, looking at the timeline[1] it looks like these were pretty isolated until 2011 and BOOM, in 2012 you get 13 countries legalizing it, in 2013 you get 35, in 2014 you get 42, the rest is history.

So I might still have a point?

Same thing if you think about the #metoo movement, all it took was a tweet for the world to start moving, whereas it took a woman to kill herself in France in 1944 for women to get the right to vote.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Timeline

Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by mensetmanusman on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:30PM (#26188351)
The countries with the most social media have no gay marriage.
Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:35AM (#26190125)
America has no gay mariage ?
Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by mensetmanusman on Friday February 19, 2021 @06:27AM (#26191957)
Recall that the U.S. is 4% of the world population:

1. China 1,394,015,977

2. India 1,325,349,639

3. US 329,484,123

4. Indonesia 272,856,400

5. Pakistan 233,431,156

6. Nigeria 213,986,428

7. Brazil 212,041,332

8. Bangladesh 162,532,538

9. Russia 142,588,206

10. Mexico 128,840,997

Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Saturday February 20, 2021 @04:05AM (#26202814)
Many of these countries' social medias are heavily controlled by their government + they are developing countries and/or lagging behind in terms of social norm. I'm pretty sure things are changing quite fast for them though!
Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by mensetmanusman on Saturday February 20, 2021 @09:30AM (#26204317)
Every country’s social media is heavily controlled by their government or by corporations.

The thing that matters more is GDP/capita

Re:'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry' by baby on Saturday February 20, 2021 @08:54PM (#26210104)
I'm sorry but you can't compare censorship on weibo to censorship on twitter