Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by 8note on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @11:14PM
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It's likely that the transmission lines are less of a bottle neck than the frequency conversion. Power lines are pretty darned efficient, and given the cold weather, theyd be more efficient than usual too
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Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by snowwindwaves on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:46AM
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Electrical engineers wouldn't build a power line to Texas with a capacity of 5000 MW and then put intertie hardware such as phase shifters or ac-dc-ac converter with capacity of 1000 MW on the end of it. So it is likely that the transmission capacity and intertie capacity are exactly the same!
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by ineedasername on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:42AM
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It's not the capacity of the converter, it's the efficiency of the conversion. There's some loss involved.
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by pixl97 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:43AM
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They make long distance DC innerconnects, while expensive they are resistant to particular types of problems and can connect to multiple different grids at the same time.
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by briffle on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:17PM
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there has been a 3GW DC interconnect between Portland, OR and LA for 5 decades or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_DC_Intertie
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by bsder on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:40AM
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That actually isn't true:
https://3dfs.com/articles/wasted-electricity-vs-lost-electri...
Almost 62% of electricity is lost in the grid. AC is the primary reason (matching, vibration, I2R, etc.).
HVDC is WAY better at transmitting power over any appreciable distance.
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by robocat on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:18AM
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The article is wildly incorrect: the 62% figure includes the losses during generation e.g. heat lost when burning coal or cooling towers for nuclear.
I recall that losses after generation due to transmission across the electricity grid are typically about 10%.
Re:What went wrong with the Texas power grid?
by angry_octet on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:34AM
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The Chinese have an amazingly ambitious plan to shift power from one part of the country to another with UHV DC. It has its own challenges, but it is definitely the way to shift massive amounts of power without grid interconnect (and the resulting frequency stability issues). Much lower loss, even with DC-AC converters.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/chinas-amb...
If America built a network of 20GW HVDC interconnects it would be far more significant infrastructure than building some highways.