Re:The Libet experiment doesn't disprove free will (2019)
by Erlich_Bachman on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:05AM
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> Do you believe that rocks have free will? Why do they choose to be attracted to other rocks?
Having a conversation is like attracting rocks? What? Those things have 0.001% in common...
Re:The Libet experiment doesn't disprove free will (2019)
by chordalkeyboard on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:07AM
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Simple question. Why do rocks choose to attract each other?
> Having a conversation is like attracting rocks? What? Those things have 0.001% in common...
“Free will” and “having a conversation” have 0 in common so....
Re:The Libet experiment doesn't disprove free will (2019)
by Erlich_Bachman on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:35AM
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> Why do rocks choose to attract each other?
This is exactly what they don't do - they don't choose. Rocks attract each other all the time, every time, with fixed force. When people talk, they routinely agree/disagree, convinced/unconvinced, they choose different topics, they choose words, they choose what they think. You are demonstrating the exactly how those two things are nothing alike.
Re:The Libet experiment doesn't disprove free will (2019)
by chordalkeyboard on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:28AM
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So you connect free will to making a choice? On what basis does a person with free will make choices?
How does this follow? Do you believe that rocks have free will? Why do they choose to be attracted to other rocks?
> People can't have opinions or be convinced, they can't decide, they have no agency. The whole language of rational conversation falls down like a house of cards.
How does an opinion rely on “free will”?
> has a free will to ultimately agree or disagree with the presented proof).
One agrees or disagrees on the basis of mental states, there is no “free will” to agree or disagree.