Comma.ai, self-driving cars and indefinite optimism

Re:Comma.ai, self-driving cars and indefinite optimism by dkjaudyeqooe on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:19AM (#26154630)

How is Comma's behaviour substantially different from Tesla's?

Arguably Comma is being a little more upfront about the user being a guinea pig for their software.

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Re:Comma.ai, self-driving cars and indefinite optimism by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:22AM (#26154669)

And Comma, if you read their website, shows how Consumer Reports compared them to Tesla Autopilot as well as Nissan, Ford, and other car manufacturer's stock offering for what is essentially Adaptive Cruise Control. CR looked at features and safety together and Comma scored #1, so from Comma's perspective, they're doing better than what car manufacturers are currently selling, and they are certainly way more upfront than those manufacturers that you are a guinea pig.

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Re:Comma.ai, self-driving cars and indefinite optimism by dawnerd on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:28AM (#26154739)

I don’t know how they “best Tesla” but it’s Not that hard to do better than the oem lane assist features. Scoring better then super cruise is surprising too, but perhaps that’s because super cruise is geo fenced.

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Re:Comma.ai, self-driving cars and indefinite optimism by 23iofj on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:55AM (#26155041)

> but perhaps that’s because super cruise is geo fenced.

Exactly.

The Consumer Reports test wasn't a comprehensive safety analysis; it was a superficial "how will this feel to a consumer based upon a few drives" analysis. We are talking about a consumer reviews magazine... no regulator or jury is going to give a shit what a Microwave/Refrigerator review website said after performing 37 "tests".

In other words, the other products are "worse" because those are production-quality products for which automakers with substantial assets to forfeit are willing to accept a degree of real liability.

I'm sure if you compared comma.ai to GM's equivalent "alpha quality software" -- aka Cruise's L5 prototype -- the latter would come out way on top. But GM isn't stupid enough to ship alpha quality self-driving software, even as an aftermarket add-on.

Including comma.ai in this comparison was a huge oversight on the part of Consumer Reports. They should be comparing comma.ai to competitors' "alpha" products, which are all L5 prototypes.

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