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Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by skohan on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @08:57AM (#26153874)
I have sometimes mused about how we have worried about "sky net" since the 90's, but we've already let AI have power to control our lives to some extent.

For instance, there are cases you can point to where some normal person on Twitter with a couple dozen followers posted the wrong thing, it blew up into an international story, and they eventually got fired from their real-world job for it. Who made the decision that this person's views should be widely scrutinized? In a lot of cases it was the algorithm: for whatever reason that tweet drew engagement, so a massive spotlight was put on this mostly-private individual.

In a real way that's an example of an AI system deciding to take away someone's livelihood.

Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by ramphastidae on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @09:43AM (#26154246)
> Who made the decision that this person's views should be widely scrutinized?

This is a serious stretch. The algo didn’t force that person to sign up and post their every ignorant thought on a public forum. People can just put down their phones but they love the attention. Individuals are just as guilty for giving power over themselves to social media.

Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by skohan on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:49AM (#26154980)
I'm not "blaming the AI" for this person's behavior. My point is that there was a non-human component in this decision process which led to this person losing their livelihood.

To make an old-world analogue, in 1980 for someone to be held to account for an objectionable view, it probably would have involved some journalist making the decision to write a story about the comments which someone made. That human component in deciding what is newsworthy has been replaced by a machine in some cases.

Another example would be dating apps. Now we have algorithms which make decisions about which parts of the dating pool an individual will have access to. In a real sense, non-human intelligence is playing some role in who gets to pass on their genes to the next generation, and with whom.

I'm not saying that our lives are ruled by machines, but they're not completely not governed by machines either.

Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by blub on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @11:51AM (#26155891)
It's not the ignorant thoughts which are considered wrongthink nowadays, but reasonable opinions that don't toe the line on controversial topics.
Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by mywittyname on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @10:51AM (#26154999)
If anything, the next generation of people will learn to avoid online polarized engagement using their own identities. They will create these curated and sterile personas under their real name while using a nom de plume for actual content.

I'm kind of surprised that aliases have not widely taken off already. But I suppose the consequences are not very severe yet.

Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by iamatworknow on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @11:29AM (#26155557)
>I'm kind of surprised that aliases have not widely taken off already.

The funny thing is that these aliases already existed, but we've largely eschewed them for our "real" identities. Prior to probably Facebook I think every interaction I had with other people online was behind a screen name detached from my real world identity.

Re:“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction” by IQunder130 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:58AM (#26165414)
Aliases used to be the default before the social media revolution, though. If anything the trend has been decidedly in the other direction - using one's real name was seen as irresponsible just 15 years ago, whereas now it seems the average internet user is not even aware pseudonymity is an option.