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Re:A second look at "no code" tools (2019) by toyg on Monday February 15, 2021 @07:10AM (#26141982)
> It’s offering a visual way to deal with all the complexities of HTML/CSS.

Uhm, a visual HTML designer, a field where we've not had any tool before (/sarcasm). But this is different! And you're totally not going to drop it once you've learnt the complexity and discovered all limitations. But hold on...

> to building all marketing sites

Ah yes. So the really complex stuff you'll still do with text. Got it.

Re:A second look at "no code" tools (2019) by pembrook on Monday February 15, 2021 @07:30AM (#26142092)
It’s a tool for building static (what HN would call “marketing”) sites, why would I use it for something more complex?

There’s other no code tools for things like mobile apps and CRUD.

Ultimately, I think there’s a lot of fear in these comment threads when no code is mentioned, and it’s misplaced.

A rising tide raises all boats. The more we can empower people to create things and solve problems for people, the better off we’ll all be.

Re:A second look at "no code" tools (2019) by toyg on Monday February 15, 2021 @08:00AM (#26142298)
> There’s other no code tools for things like mobile apps and CRUD.

You're joking, right? There are loads. They all suck to various degrees, which is why they are not popular.

> Ultimately, I think there’s a lot of fear

Mine is not fear as much as frustration for having to waste cycles on stuff that will not endure.

Take Power Automation (aka MSFlow): it's very powerful, but not because it's a graphical environment; it's because we have an environment with a lot of APIs available without having to do anything. If MS gave me a blank editor with all those APIs preloaded, I would be 1000000x more productive than I am fighting with this goddamn half-broken flowcharty thingie. Meanwhile, nobody else in my team (all non-devs) want to even consider look at it. They'd rather brush up on VBA if they really need to do complex stuff. And it's a shame, because the API wiring is amazing and when things eventually run it's magical.

Repl.it with all those APIs preloaded would be so much more popular than PA, which I fully expect will eventually die a slow death like Yahoo! Pipes and friends.