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Re:Groupon files for IPO by megamark16 on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:20PM (#2613485)
I just don't understand why anyone would invest in a hot IPO for a company that hasn't even turned a profit yet and had a $389.6 million net loss in 2010! Can someone explain to me the allure of an investment like this?
Re:Groupon files for IPO by staunch on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:24PM (#2613514)
They appear to have cracked the nut on local advertising. Their business could end up bigger than Google's.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by svrocks on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:33PM (#2613559)
Wow. Google revolutionized the way we entertain ourselves, learn information, and interact with each other. Groupon has revolutionized paying $5 less for a pedicure on Sundays before 1pm.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by staunch on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:45PM (#2613616)
Groupon is revolutionizing the way we explore our local communities, discover hidden treasures, meet like-minded people, go on adventures we wouldn't have otherwise.

Google has revolutionized finding celebrity sex tapes and forwarding people to Wikipedia 2 billion times a day.

(It's easy to put a spin on anything)

Re:Groupon files for IPO by Illgetthere on Thursday June 02, 2011 @07:29PM (#2614476)
Imagine life without Google (or any other search engine) Can you? Now imagine life without Groupon. Done.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by Illgetthere on Thursday June 02, 2011 @07:33PM (#2614499)
Groupon isn't revolutionizing anything, it's DISCOUNTING the way we explore, discover, meet...
Re:Groupon files for IPO by nostrademons on Thursday June 02, 2011 @05:11PM (#2613995)
Google monetizes very little of what they revolutionize. As far as money goes, Google revolutionized how we find small businesses. That's pretty much it. The entertainment, education, and interaction portions are all loss leaders so that the answer to "How do you find small businesses?" is "I go to Google."

Groupon does the exact same thing, answer "How do you find small businesses?" The difference is that they compete on price instead of relevancy. Google's value proposition is that they will show you the most relevant ads to your query, so that you don't need to wade through lots of useless shops to get the one you want. Groupon's value proposition is price: the merchants they show you will give you lower prices than the ones you'd find elsewhere.

It remains to be seen whether this is a sustainable value proposition. I can think of two Web 1.0 companies that Groupon reminds me of: Amazon.com and Kozmo.com. But while Amazon became a huge retailing powerhouse, Kozmo deadpooled, hard. The difference was that Amazon's value proposition was convenience and selection, and they used the Internet to deliver both through some pretty impressive logistics management. Kozmo's value proposition was convenience and price, and they used lots of venture capital money to deliver both through selling at a loss. Groupon's business seems to remind me a bit more of Kozmo's though: they compete on price through using direct subsidies.

Re:Groupon files for IPO by freshfunk on Thursday June 02, 2011 @06:12PM (#2614226)
Yeah, who cares about consumer spending?! It's only 70% of our nation's economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_spending

Re:Groupon files for IPO by Helianthus on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:43PM (#2613606)
You have stated the point sarcastically but thereby revealed the truth of the point you're responding to.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by jonknee on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:28PM (#2613537)
Losing a lot of money by emailing half-off coupons isn't going to end up bigger than Google.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by staunch on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:30PM (#2613548)
Google drives billions in revenue to online businesses.

Groupon drives billions in revenue to local businesses.

There are important differences, and Groupon may fail, but their fundamental market opportunity is easily as big as Google's.

Re:Groupon files for IPO by jonknee on Thursday June 02, 2011 @04:11PM (#2613740)
Google also drives billions in revenue to local businesses. I spend more locally through Google and even Yelp than Groupon. Humorously, to drive growth Groupon has been sending bucket loads of cash to Google.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by DLarsen on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:24PM (#2613511)
It's alluring as a trader; less so as an investor. An IPO like this is going to have plenty of trade-able price movement.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by jdp23 on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:27PM (#2613529)
It's also very alluring to the the current investors and founders.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by philwelch on Thursday June 02, 2011 @06:06PM (#2614206)
If a growing company is too big for VC's to handle, it has to IPO to continue gathering investment. Especially if it's capital-intensive. Amazon did this in 1997 and that doesn't seem to have been a disaster.
Re:Groupon files for IPO by geeksam on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:28PM (#2613535)
Re:Groupon files for IPO by svrocks on Thursday June 02, 2011 @03:23PM (#2613504)
because there are far more people who don't care about such trivialities as profitability or sustainability than those who do