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Re:The Kotlin Foundation by chrisseaton on Saturday February 13, 2021 @12:19PM (#26124894)
> How did Java (as opposed to JVM)

Well that’s the point - they solved it in the JVM not as a kludge of bytecode.

Re:The Kotlin Foundation by balfirevic on Saturday February 13, 2021 @12:26PM (#26124964)
Well, once that happened Kotlin also gets the solution.

It's rude and unfair to call out a language as "solving the problems with kludges" when they literally could not have done anything better.

Re:The Kotlin Foundation by chrisseaton on Saturday February 13, 2021 @12:30PM (#26125002)
Anyone can propose changes to the JVM. The Java people did. The Kotlin people didn't. And the Kotlin approach generates bad (irreducible) bytecode.
Re:The Kotlin Foundation by jdmichal on Monday February 15, 2021 @08:14AM (#26142402)
Yet the JVM had `invokedynamic` before it had any use in Java, specifically to support more dynamic languages.