True. Java has improved substantially since java8 (including something kinda sorta like case classes with record types in jdk15) but I still think Scala is miles better. I don't think it is generally appreciated how essential higher-minded types and typeclasses are to making functional programming tractable and safe. Perhaps because it is something that is generally hidden away in libraries and developers working on actual application code (i.e. 99% of scala devs) never use them.