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Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by AmericanChopper on Thursday February 11, 2021 @11:24PM (#26110721)
> Meanwhile, the complexity of our technology goes up and its reliability in practice goes down.

I don’t agree with this at all. Reliability in practice is improving at a phenomenal pace. 10 years ago maintenance outages were a normal feature of every service, and unplanned outages were perfectly ordinary occurrences. Consumers today expect a much higher level of availability and reliability, which they receive rather consistently. Today it takes much less resource to produce a much more reliable system then you would have been able to produce in the rather recent past.

Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by fogetti on Friday February 12, 2021 @12:45AM (#26111066)
I don't know which industry you worked in, but outages in the telecom industry was strictly forbidden and came with severe financial penalties even 10 years ago. And those companies managed to adhere to really strict uptime SLAs even then.

It might take less resource today though to achieve the same, I agree with that.

Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by AmericanChopper on Friday February 12, 2021 @01:02AM (#26111136)
Telcos have historically had availability regulations in many places because of how people rely on them for access to emergency services. So they’re a special case here, and the amount of resources they invested into optimizing for that is beyond the capacity for most organizations.

10 years ago I was working for a company that provided a financial OLTP service. We had to invest a huge amount of money to be able to provide a reasonable HA architecture, and to be able to meet 4 hour DR SLAs, and we still had weekly maintenance outages. The amount of effort required to accomplish those service levels today is comparatively trivial, and you could reasonably expect even a low-budget one person operation to be able to exceed them.

You’d expect a service outage to be a significant public controversy today for a lot of companies. It’s never been a good thing, but we’ve come a long way from it being a completely routine event for most services. Especially given the explosion in online services.

Re:Kubernetes Failure Stories by Lutzb on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:44AM (#26111494)
Depends on what you compare. If you compare mainframes vs k8s I would say reliability is not on par yet. If you compare commodity systems with simple monolithic apps vs k8s system maybe we just reached parity.