Re:The media still doesn't understand what it means to own B...
by cccc4alll on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @10:32AM
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Bitcoin is simply technological method to establish trust in trust less environment, anonymous online transactions.
What is the value of that trust? It’s whatever people think it’s worth. Read the white paper and decide if it’s for you or not.
My analogy is the value some people place on some art work. Whenever some art painting is sold for $100 million dollars, is it really worth $100 million? To some, yes. To most, no.
The establishment media doesn’t know basic math in encryption, let alone concepts like block chain. Reading the establishment media report on Bitcoin is just for laughs only at this point.
Re:The media still doesn't understand what it means to own B...
by ForHackernews on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @10:14AM
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This article seems like empty semantics to me. As they say, "not your keys, not your coins": controlling the private key feels like a reasonable proxy of "ownership" in common parlance.
If you want to get really pedantic about it, then contrary to this article's assertion that
> Bitcoin is “stored” on a the public blockchain
The blockchain is just a record of transactions showing the movement of bitcoin values between wallet addresses. It's not like "a bitcoin" is some discrete thing saved inside the blockchain.
Re:The media still doesn't understand what it means to own B...
by cryptocrypter on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @10:15AM
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It depends on how the criminal chose to "store" their Bitcoins, though. If he used an encrypted wallet and only memorized the password to decrypt the wallet, he is screwed. If he memorized the actual private seed of a wallet, he still has his Bitcoins, and the police doesn't have anything.
Re:The media still doesn't understand what it means to own B...
by jacknews on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @10:56AM
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IMHO wealth is not something you 'own'.
It's more like a contract, for the rest of society to repay you for the value you've created for them.
Of course that ideal is far from the current reality, but bitcoin doesn't really move us toward that ideal, in fact I think exactly the opposite is true.
Re:The media still doesn't understand what it means to own B...
by chii on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @12:23AM
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why not? Bitcoin has the property that it is hard to forge, and difficult to double spend, etc (not easy for an electronic medium). Like gold, trust could be placed in it - and thus, has value like gold has value in today's economic system.
What is the value of that trust? It’s whatever people think it’s worth. Read the white paper and decide if it’s for you or not.
My analogy is the value some people place on some art work. Whenever some art painting is sold for $100 million dollars, is it really worth $100 million? To some, yes. To most, no.
The establishment media doesn’t know basic math in encryption, let alone concepts like block chain. Reading the establishment media report on Bitcoin is just for laughs only at this point.
If you want to get really pedantic about it, then contrary to this article's assertion that
> Bitcoin is “stored” on a the public blockchain
The blockchain is just a record of transactions showing the movement of bitcoin values between wallet addresses. It's not like "a bitcoin" is some discrete thing saved inside the blockchain.
Password manager doesn't really help in principle, as you again need the password for the password manager.
One thing I am looking into is Shamir's Secret Sharing to split a secret into multiple parts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir's_Secret_Sharing
It's more like a contract, for the rest of society to repay you for the value you've created for them.
Of course that ideal is far from the current reality, but bitcoin doesn't really move us toward that ideal, in fact I think exactly the opposite is true.
In the case of bitcoin, it seems like that contract is an incredibly poor deal for most people, and an amazing windfall for a few.