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Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by pmorici on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:52PM (#26052747)
The CyberTruck starts at $39,900. Ford has to be in that ballpark to compete if they want to remain a going concern.
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by alphabettsy on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:54PM (#26052751)
Just like the Model 3 is $35k ;)
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by reissbaker on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:04AM (#26052799)
Alright, so then $43k to compete, given typical Elon Musk numbers. Still a hard bar!
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by alphabettsy on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:07AM (#26052811)
Not sure how you figure. The one that will actually be available at launch and I’m guessing most people will buy, with AWD, is $50k.
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by nickik on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:18AM (#26052848)
This is a terrible argument. Of any car most people don't buy the base version. People wont buy the base version of an F-150 either.

And just because Tesla once didn't offer a car with the price they said doesn't mean its some inherent law of nature. Tesla now is a very different company compared to 2017 when they built their first mass manufactured car.

Fact is that Electric F-150 will not be able to compete with the Cybertruck on specs. Tesla will bring its now batteries and new packs and will reach range and performance that F-150 can't match.

Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by alphabettsy on Sunday February 07, 2021 @02:26PM (#26057424)
Look. I’m not the person who brought up the 35k Model 3. I was pointing out that the absolute base car and base trim is a silly metric.

They don’t have to compete with the base model. They can compete with the volume model. If they match it on specs and features it’s competitive.

Tesla marketing has a habit of being very ambitious so we’ll see if the range and performance are better in the real-world. They certainly have the technology and battery advantage.

Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by pmorici on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:27AM (#26052890)
Can you cite any car company that makes the cheapest version of a product available before the more expensive one? It makes good business sense to start with the more profitable model I’m not sure why you bring this up as if it is bad.
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by jfim on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:56AM (#26053006)
The Mustang Mach-E GT and Mach-E GT Performance Edition aren't available until summer 2021 but the lower trim levels are available right now.
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by alphabettsy on Sunday February 07, 2021 @02:11PM (#26057281)
I’m not the one that brought up that lowest priced Model 3.
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by pmorici on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:56PM (#26052764)
They stopped offering the 35k model because most people opted for the SR+ at 38,800
Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by alphabettsy on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:59PM (#26052775)
Sure, but it wasn’t available at launch and now it doesn’t exist.

I don’t have much faith in the 40k Cybertruck being widely or readily available based on that. It’s not really a dig at Tesla. Ford makes an F-150 that costs less than $30k, but most sold outside of fleets are higher trims and packed with options.

Re:Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars by bushbaba on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:00AM (#26052783)
Because there was never a viable Tesla 35k car that made sense to buy.