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Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by Vitaly on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:57PM (#2604534)
establishing a truth and proving it 'without a reasonable doubt' are different things.

if you personally saw a murder you don't need no trial to know who is the killer. trial is to convince everybody else.

In this case, trial might be required to charge this guy with anything, but you can see him driving away with the laptop just as it was stolen. might not be enough to charge with theft, but pretty much enough for me.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by raganwald on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:01PM (#2604550)
if you personally saw a murder you don't need no trial to know who is the killer. trial is to convince everybody else.

I don't think you know why we have trials. We don't have trials to convince everyone else. We have trials because your eyesight alone is not sufficient evidence, you need to consider all of the facts, not just what you think you saw.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by tzs on Wednesday June 01, 2011 @02:30AM (#2606229)
If I commit act X, which is illegal, but I cannot be convicted because an error in police precedure makes some of the evidence inadmissible, it sounds like you believe that means I did not actually do X.

That is not how causality works in this universe.