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Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by DigiDigiorno on Friday February 05, 2021 @12:19PM (#26038653)
The highly religious nature of US settlers is directly connected to our secular freedoms. A lot of early settlers were pretty extreme practicers of their religions and faced persecution in Europe. They left to practice their religion in a place where they wouldn't be burned as a heretic. It's interesting that these opposing extremists were able to get along separately by agreeing to keep the government secular
Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by mullingitover on Friday February 05, 2021 @01:46PM (#26039760)
> They left to practice their religion in a place where they wouldn't be burned as a heretic.

Not true, at least in the obvious case of the Pilgrims of Plymouth. They were perfectly free to practice their religion when they lived in the Netherlands. They moved away because they wanted to create their own strict theocratic colony. The Netherlands, in their eyes, had too much religious freedom.

Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by mensetmanusman on Friday February 05, 2021 @04:53PM (#26041708)
There is a lot of debate over why they moved. e.g.

-running out of room -economics -impending war -wanting to venture into the unknown

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/91317/holland-first...

Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by DigiDigiorno on Friday February 05, 2021 @03:03PM (#26040559)
Even that specific example is a bit of a gray area imo. They were persecuted in England and tried to live in the Netherlands but found life hard to adjust and were also wanting to keep their English identity. So, it is more of persecution by the Church of England that pushed them away.

The Netherlands do get a point here for tolerance imo.

Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by shadowgovt on Friday February 05, 2021 @12:41PM (#26038941)
It's an interesting piece of American history worth drilling down on.

The Virginia Statue of Religious Freedom originated from one of the Southern colonies, which tended towards more English mainstream religion (Jefferson himself was raised in the Church of England, but considered himself a Deist). It served as a sort of "non-aggression pact" between the religions, since the various sects of the Northern colonies had quite a bit of political power by virtue of concentration of their adherents and isolation from traditional European religious power.

Re:Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps... by Veen on Friday February 05, 2021 @12:45PM (#26039001)
Yes, and that’s related to the formation of the Church of England too. The religious settlements in the reign of Elizabeth I and others aimed to bring Catholic-leaning and Protestant-leaning believers together in one broad church, but it couldn’t accommodate every sect, so some were excluded from the national church, persecuted, and eventually left. You can still see the division today in high and low Anglican churches.