Python’s tug of war between beginner-friendly and advanced features

Re:Python’s tug of war between beginner-friendly and advance... by the__alchemist on Friday February 05, 2021 @03:11AM (#26034163)

I'd love a Python 4, or one by any other name, to be like the latest Python, but cleaned up, with no regards for backwards compatibility. For example: a trimmed standard library, and much of the alternate syntaxes removed. Better tooling and official-docs support; ie like Rust: A modern, official package manager, a built-in linter, formatter, binary-creator etc.

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Re:Python’s tug of war between beginner-friendly and advance... by japanuspus on Friday February 05, 2021 @03:47AM (#26034336)

I have a hunch that in five years, the global-state package manager built into python will be a feature because we will all be working exclusively in dev-containers.

What does it matter to you if there are features in the standard library you don't use? The full python embedded distribution is only 8MB including runtime.

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Re:Python’s tug of war between beginner-friendly and advance... by the__alchemist on Friday February 05, 2021 @02:08PM (#26039994)

I hope your hunch is wrong! I feel like containers are a symptom of situations like this Python one.

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Re:Python’s tug of war between beginner-friendly and advance... by kzrdude on Friday February 05, 2021 @07:39AM (#26035662)

Hehe, Python 4 will probably not happen after 2->3.

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