Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ...
by pandaman on Friday February 05, 2021 @07:35PM
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Many car parts are outsourced. Headlights, seats, airbags etc. I don't see how the batteries could be different. It's not like Tesla itself makes cells that are assembled into batteries in their factories, is it? Even if it does (I honestly don't know, last time I had this discussion about a year ago it had cells made by Panasonic though Panasonic line was located in their factory), Sony, Samsung, LG and aforementioned Panasonic still make these cells and sell to anybody who is willing to buy.
It was technology. It was cutting edge. The potential was instantly and tangibly apparent.
There was definitely an "early adopter" feel to it as well. But you were hopping onto something fundamentally different that yet another turbocharged BMW with 400HP and leather.
I guess you either drive in one and get that feeling, or, well, you don't.
People looking to spend a lot of money on a car that isn't used are going to look for something that justifies the cost. A lot of people look at BMWs and think that's a waste of money, you can get a used german auto, a cadillac, or similar. The Tesla has instant differentiation.
Sure the big companies are talking a big game about getting into EVs...
People trump up Rivian and Lucid as "they'll show them how its done". Ditto with Porsche, even though I have great faith in their engineers eventually.
With whose battery factories? You could say the same about Lucid, VW, GM, Hummer, Cadillac. VW is at least starting on this, as is the EU, but they are behind.
It's like a small group of knights walking up to an army challenging them to a fight. Sure they may have slightly better armor and weapons, but an army is .. an army, and they get to say "you and what battery factory?"
I used to think that the possibility for solid state batteries would close the gap overnight, but I suspect that steady progress on lithium ion cells will simply match/outpace any headline splashing battery tech.
Tesla still has a big big lead in the battery, drivetrain, and architecture over the new players. The chinese companies are likely the biggest competition over the next 10 years.
Aside from VW, I don't have faith the execs will follow through on what is at least a decade long push. They're all just dabbling, and we'll see what happens when activist investors, earnings misses, stock options lost, and CEO turnover happens.