Pleade strike the first sentence of this comment, thanks.
Amazon undercuts competitors and plays hard ball with suppliers literally every day. That's business, that's life. I don't see why workers shouldn't take their opportunity to engage in tough negotiations with Amazon themselves.
Because collective bargaining results in a net decrease in value because of moral hazards, perverse incentives, and agent-principal problems.
Nobody argues that a company having a single legal team that represents all of its managers and sets org-wide hiring policies is anti-efficiency. If you negotiate with a publicly traded company, you are engaging in collective bargaining, because public companies are collectives that represent the multiple interests of multiple stakeholders during negotiations.
Nobody argues that companies are anti-value because they restrict my freedom to negotiate a separate contract with every single member of the company's board. But suddenly it's different if the workers do the same thing.
Nonsense, people insisted that it was foolish to require bundling of routine insurance with catastrophic insurance, people advocate for the severability of hardward and operating systems, people oppose forced bundling of insurance and all kinds of other goods.
> Nobody argues that a company having a single legal team that represents all of its managers and sets org-wide hiring policies is anti-efficiency.
They would however observe that that single legal team only protects the company, and that each employee should have their own, individual legal representation for their own personal liability.
> If you negotiate with a publicly traded company, you are engaging in collective bargaining, because public companies are collectives that represent the multiple interests of multiple stakeholders during negotiations.
This doesn’t offer a counterpoint to my point.
> Nobody argues that companies are anti-value because they restrict my freedom to negotiate a separate contract with every single member of the company's board. But suddenly it's different if the workers do the same thing.
I think the comparison here has been twisted so far beyond the breaking point that there is no need of a rebuttal.
None of that is collective bargaining.
> This doesn’t offer a counterpoint to my point.
One comment earlier: "Because collective bargaining results in a net decrease in value"
Neither were your examples.
> One comment earlier: "Because collective bargaining results in a net decrease in value"
That point still stands.
What's more, all of those buzzwords can apply to the relationship between any other supplier as well. In addition, corporations are themselves a highly collected bargaining unit. They may nominally be a single entity, but they represent the financial interests of many people.
That they provide excellent value to consumers. Indeed the recent pandemic would have been much worse without them.
> What a ridiculous narrative you're trying to push.
Maybe try understanding others’ perspectives instead of ridiculing them.
It's so blatant & over the top that I'd almost believe the union organizers set it up to make Amazon look bad.
And it's telling that they focus pretty exclusively on the $500 in dues: They pay their employees little enough that they know ~$10/week might be a significant decision making factor here.