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Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:11PM (#25994011)
Why doesn't VLC have good support for casting? I mean LAN is in the name - I shouldn't have to use a half-baked Chromecast solution that's proprietary, can't be a server and can't display most subtitles.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by jbk on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:45PM (#25994427)
Because Chromecast is not done for push, but for pull. And because noone cares enough to fix it, I would guess...
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by jimmaswell on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:27PM (#25994969)
> Chromecast is not done for push, but for pull.

What does this mean?

Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by Moru on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:14AM (#25998158)
Push = you at the computer pushing something to the TV.

Pull = you at the surfpad, pulling from the computer.

Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:35PM (#25995070)
Casting is all about push
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by rakoo on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:47AM (#25998306)
No, your chromecast downloads and runs a webapp, and you give instructions about what to play from your computer/phone. That's hlw you can play a webradio and turn off your phone for example
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @04:30AM (#25998920)
That's an implementation detail and doesn't say anything about casting in general.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by rakoo on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @04:32AM (#25998935)
The discussion is not about casting in general, it's about chromecast
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:15AM (#25999662)
I started it and I asked about casting in general. Chromecast is the only type of casting VLC supports; because of that I think its not living up to it's name.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by saagarjha on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:34AM (#25999792)
Casting is generally hard; the protocols are undocumented and proprietary in general and are usually quite limited in the formats they support and function in ways that are not necessarily conducive to casting content that isn't hosted on the web.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by fuzzfactor on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @11:13PM (#26010540)
In the 1990's there was a communication protocol named VideoLAN which was apparently intended to send video over ethernet faster than regular ethernet would do,

I found it used in professional print mastering where the large-format printer(s) which printed the masters were connected to an NT3.x server by VideoLAN using ethernet cable, then a second NIC having regular ethernet drivers connected the NT box to the artists' network who were using Apples.

With the amount of data they were sending in one direction once it got started, they were really streaming and apparently multicast was a click away when you wanted all the printers to print the same thing at the same time.

Naturally this was well over 20 years ago, but I imagine there was some nice wizardry to get old computers to perform so much better than they could as office machines.

Probably still have that driver somewhere, IIRC the driver would install in XP (but only to one of the few NICs in the INF file) but the pro printer app did not have an XP version and even the NT4 version would not install in W2k or Wxp.

Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:54AM (#25999917)
It wouldn't be that hard to make an open casting protocol.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by saagarjha on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:57AM (#25999930)
It wouldn't, but people want to cast to devices they already have. Getting manufacturers (and other software makers) on board is not easy…
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @07:11AM (#26000030)
Personally I would buy any device that offered a working casting solution for VLC.
Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by hunter2_ on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:18AM (#26001184)
I haven't tried Windows or Linux versions of VLC in a long time, but the "Renderer" option in macOS VLC seems to work well.

Unrelated: Have you tried catt? https://github.com/skorokithakis/catt

Re:VideoLAN is 20 years old today by akvadrako on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:38AM (#26001411)
I have tried the renderer - it's buggy and doesn't support embedded subtitles which I almost always use.

Same thing with catt, which also suffers from having a poor UI.