Solid Project: All of your data, under your control

Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by fuzzybear3965 on Monday February 01, 2021 @01:13PM (#25991460)

Is this related to Jaron Lanier's vision of union (in the labor sense) groups which sell to companies access to the group's anonymized data? In his model, one individual can belong to many groups and their information is like a share/stock they have in a pool of data with other people. They sell in a cooperative fashion to select companies, gaining power through anonymity and group bargaining power.

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Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by Nasrudith on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:52PM (#25994514)

Data in those contexts nearly always have "reciprocial actions" fundamentally and those who gather the data know what they actually want out of it. Company-user interactions would likely produce better data. It feels like half of an understanding of both data usage and union style collective barganing.

Unless I am missing something it seems a bit like trying to combine a semitruck and a bicycle to get green bulk cargo transportation. Sure both things individually have these advantages and it would be great to have all in one but implementing it is fundamentally nonviable.

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Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by rencire on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:01PM (#25992155)

Would love to learn more about this. Any resources/links on this subject?

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Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by asdfk-12 on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:20PM (#25995489)

Parent seems to be referring to MIDs [1]

"Mediators of Individual Data (MIDs) are a union-like organization championed by technologist Jaron Lanier as a framework for addressing the key issues around user-generated data like ownership, monetization, and reparations. An effective MID or data union could perform a number of critical functions on behalf of its members that are currently lacking in the digital economy."

There exists also a great Harvard Business Review article, but it is paywalled.

[1] https://blog.datadividendproject.com/this-week-in-data-101-w...

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Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by rapnie on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:01AM (#25998088)

"Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator.", The Netherlands not allowed (the hashtag for the project is #DDPforAll ironically) :(

http://archive.today/swdlk

Edit: DataDividendProject.com (https://archive.is/iFhT0). Given that it is all blocked, it is not that interesting to me.

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Re:Solid Project: All of your data, under your control by rapnie on Monday February 01, 2021 @01:22PM (#25991551)

Interesting. Do you have any good links?

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