Protonmail was down

Re:Protonmail was down by quasirandom on Monday February 01, 2021 @03:50AM (#25986834)

I've used proton for several years now. The only headache I've ever had is being unable to subscribe to the openbsd mailing list. And that's only because openbsd added proton servers to a spam list... a decision I wish they would revisit.

Edit: I initially said freebsd mailing list. It was the openbsd mailing list.

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Re:Protonmail was down by sammorrowdrums on Monday February 01, 2021 @03:55AM (#25986864)

That is an unusual decision. I guess some spammer(s) must have done something to deserve it at some point?

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Re:Protonmail was down by quasirandom on Monday February 01, 2021 @03:58AM (#25986883)

Super unusual. I've never encountered the issue before or since.

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Re:Protonmail was down by codetrotter on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:26AM (#25987058)

Found this thread http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/OT-protonmail-mail...

Someone was complaining that mail sent from ProtonMail was unreadable to them. Turned out to be because of base64 encoding. Which is an RFC standard. However, several people in the thread insist that this is a problem.

Theo de Raadt, the founder and leader of OpenBSD says in the thread:

> Maybe it should be blocked. Then the users there can tell them to fix it.

> Would have no downside for me.

I guess this may be what happened?

Really weird IMO. But at the same time I kind of see their point. They have a setup that works for them. And if they want to keep that system the way that it is, it is up to them. Still sad for people that use ProtonMail that they are blocked from even reading the list though if I understood the GP here correctly.

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Re:Protonmail was down by upofadown on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:48PM (#25991093)

Wait, Protonmail sends regular email as base64? Why would they do such a weird thing?

It seems that that mailing list is "Plain text, 72 characters per line" by policy.

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Re:Protonmail was down by dathinab on Monday February 01, 2021 @03:54AM (#25986856)

> proton servers to a spam list

Wait, what?

Which serious organization adds a proper mail service on the spam list?

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Re:Protonmail was down by pmlnr on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:06AM (#25987286)

All of them, sadly. Outlook is probably the craziest of all, adding the a /16 of Hetzner, because 1 IP sent spam.

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Re:Protonmail was down by vlpwx on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:36AM (#25987455)

So MSFT continues its attempts to extinguish the smaller providers while ostensibly being in favor of "diversity" and open source.

How about blocking MSFT in Germany for anti-competitive practices?

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Re:Protonmail was down by dathinab on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:46AM (#25988133)

Wait but if microsoft completely blocks a cloud provider wrt. any mail sending this is a form of illegal hindering of competition as far as I can tell.

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Re:Protonmail was down by pmlnr on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:46PM (#25991057)

Yeah. And nobody can do anything other than wait until their period has passed. I had to mail Hetzner multiple times because of this.

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Re:Protonmail was down by icefo on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:01AM (#25987906)

I seriously doubt that only one IP of Hetzner sent spam but unfortunately it seems to be pretty common for email providers to soft ban VPS IPs.

I don't know how much spam come from cheap hosting services but between the hacked servers and servers rented by spammers it's probably a lot.

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