It is because Germany also takes in a lot of lower class/uneducated migrants in who have almost no prospects of getting a good job. Whereas America doesn't really do that as much (at least right now, I'm not talking about the past). Germany also doesn't have a lot of black people, which in my opinion if they had would make the racism more visible.

So this is an important point.

An American in Germany would probably knee-jerk to 'racism' for a few reasons, and although there are different kinds of unfairness, I'm not sure if that's quite the right word.

America is an open place, Germany, not so much. America has tons of really high-level aptitude migrants, Germany doesn't quite have that.

With respect to 'glass ceilings' - it's more complicated.

As a resident of Germany for some time, as an outsider ... I would have expected to be promoted well enough if I was materially 'that much better', but frankly, not otherwise.

I actually accepted the fact that 'this is a German company, it's going to be run by Germans'.

I was in France I felt the same way.

I don't believe in the notion that a random person from country XYZ has the 'right' to be an executive for example at a local company.

Definitely treated with respect and not face racism, definitely promoted rank and file based mostly on performance, definitely the same material, legal rights - but beyond that ... I always felt 'it was their country, not really mine'.

Also, there are quite a number of these countries run by foreign nationals anyhow, it's just not quite as common as in the US.

Having lived in Germany for a few years, I was pretty surprised by the level of casual racism. The level of casual anti-semitism in Poland was even more surprising.

Interesting. I've checked [1] and it seems that number of antisemitic incidents in Poland is rather low (for instance is smaller than in Sweden, which has much smaller population), not to mention France, where number of incidents was 5 times bigger than in Poland.

I am curious what is source of you information about Polish antisemitism.

[1] https://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2020/antisemitism-overv...

I am really curious how a report like this can capture casual racism or antisemitism. When I was working in Switzerland a long time ago, one of the comments I heard frequently is that I am not like other Indians - I dress well, speak well and I am tall. I would consider it as a "racist" comment, but not something that would get reported. One of my other friends from India felt similar, if he is not dressed in a suit, he would be treated differently. I doubt he would report it either. You are different and will be treated differently. Jariel made a similar point above - you are constantly aware that it is not your country. I do not feel the same in US.

That’s because the US is one of the most harmonious multicultural societies in the world. It just doesn’t seem that way if you read the news because it’s the rest of the worlds political punching bag.

I’ve lived and worked all over Southeast Asia, and just openly being racist is perfectly normal there. Employers will openly tell you that they don’t want to hire foreigners, because they don’t trust them. Local ethnic minorities are consistently discriminated against, especially if there’s a local ethnic Chinese population (who in Indonesia for instance are often referred to as babi which means pig, or mata sipit which means slanted eyes). Contempt for people from neighbouring countries is very common. Working in KL it was very common to hear my colleagues talking about how much they don’t like Thai people. India takes things to a whole different level with their caste system and extreme distaste for dark skin.

Ive never got particularly wound up about it, because I see myself as a guest whenever I go and work in a foreign country, so I’ve just got to play by their rules. But try applying that logic the US and see how long it takes for an outrage mob to come after you.

> When I was working in Switzerland a long time ago, one of the comments I heard frequently is that I am not like other Indians - I dress well, speak well and I am tall. I would consider it as a "racist" comment, but not something that would get reported.

Yikes. Very Joe Biden: https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

> "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

I've never gotten a comment like that as a South Asian (Bangladesh) in the United States.

Yeah. The dude was in the Senate during the Nixon administration. He's (we hope) recovering from a seriously poisonous culture, particularly with respect to race and gender equality. But he's also the guy that forced Obama's hand on marriage equality. I'm inclined to watchfully wait and see how he handles things from here. In the meantime: he's said some stupid shit. What'd you expect?

I’m just cringing at the comment itself. I think Biden’s a good guy who cares about people, even if he’s not always so great at saying words.

Totally fair. He's exasperating, for sure.

I actually find it quite endearing (aside from this instance). I'm a big fan from when I was in Delaware.

My own ex-boss (Bangladeshi immigrant from Dhaka) told me (Pakistani-American born here) when I asked him for a proper W2 in order to lease my car as opposed to a handwritten one that "suspicion runs in your veins like everyone else from the subcontinent" (I managed to extract it from the HR person)

Lol!

Well that's why he's my ex-boss and he apparently outsourced most development a few years after I quit.

Personal experience. I was talking to some absolutely lovely Polish friends of mine one evening, and somehow we were discussing Christmas growing up. Somehow it came up that many of my childhood friends celebrated Hanukah instead, and the response was a puzzled "You like Jews? Really?" After some mentions of typical stereotypes as to why that would be strange, I said that that wasn't my experience and changed the subject.

From talking to other Polish people, my impression is that this is a fairly typical attitude. I think that the reason this doesn't show up as incidents in the news is simply that there are hardly any Jews in Poland because they were virtually completely wiped out in the Holocaust.

I'm not German but I live in German. I didn't notice racism. Maybe some don't like immigrants (especially from eastern Europe, same in UK). And what the hell is causal racism? Give me examples please.

> In America, they are doing well

This is taken as further evidence of American racism!