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Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by manmal on Sunday January 31, 2021 @05:13AM (#25977671)
As an EV owner, I can say that the maintenance cost savings are being hyped up, at least if you buy a new car every 5 years. About 70% of the expenses I had for my recently sold ICE car are relevant for EVs, too: Yearly inspection (yes it’s cheaper with the EV, but still necessary for most brands; pollen filters need changing and AC needs cleaning), new brakes because they were rusty (a problem even worse for EVs), new tires and seasonal tire rotation, new 12V battery (every EV has one too), new wipers, and cleaning. You’ll probably spend a bit less time at the mechanic with an EV, but the difference won’t be that big.

If you keep your car for longer, an EV will require less expenses for moving parts, but it might offset this by requiring a new battery after 8-12 years (right now, batteries retail for $12k and more, let’s hope this goes down soon).

Given that, fuel savings are really great. With my old ICE car a round trip to the big city cost €10, while with my Ioniq it’s only €3 in summer, when charged at home (even though we pay €0.20/kWh). Maybe €4.50 in winter. So on average we’re looking at something like 60% savings in fuel costs even with our expensive middle european electricity plans.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by fred_is_fred on Sunday January 31, 2021 @09:49AM (#25979205)
Curious about brakes because of the things you mentioned brakes and tires cost the most. Original brake pads on my 2014 Subaru lasted me 85k miles, although I did change the fluid at about 40k. That was 5 years for me, so why are the brake issues worse for EVs?
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by nswest23 on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:32AM (#25979509)
Brakes can get rusty if they don't get engaged frequently enough b/c you're using the regenerative braking most of the time. I've read that a lot of newer EV's will periodically engage traditional brakes to help alleviate this issue though.

FWIW I just had my 2018 leaf inspected and at 22K miles they said the brakes looked good.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by manmal on Sunday January 31, 2021 @12:39PM (#25980664)
Yes, that’s what I meant. For some reason my ICE’s brakes were so rusty after 5 years that they had to be replaced.

VW uses drum brakes for that reason now, at least for the ID3. Those don’t really rust AFAIK.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by fred_is_fred on Sunday January 31, 2021 @06:45PM (#25983840)
I thought drum brakes were considered inferior/cheap/old tech and that everyone switched to disc about 20 years ago? Edit - I should add that when buying a car in the early 2000s having disc was considered a nice feature like "rack and pinyon steering" which was frequently mentioned then too
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by manmal on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:01PM (#25994646)
Indeed! But since EVs rarely need the posterior brakes (if at all), low maintenance becomes more important than performance. Changing 2 disc brakes costs ~€500, and I‘d rather not pay that every few years.
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by fred_is_fred on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:40PM (#25996890)
I had a Neon in the late 1990s and it had disc front and drum rear brakes, I assumed it was just because it was a cheap car. That's super interesting how it just isn't as needed for EVs.