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Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by sjwright on Saturday January 30, 2021 @08:09PM (#25974725)
Completely agree. Most racism in the USA can be explained by poverty—of which "POC" are disproportionately represented. America's systemic racism is better described as systemic poverty combined abuse of the poor.
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by socialdemocrat on Saturday January 30, 2021 @09:58PM (#25975366)
Yes, but the problems are interwoven. Poverty amplifies the problem of racism. But racism is what caused that poverty in the first place.

Now I do believe that more social democratic policies would benefit African-Americans a lot. But it would not completely eradicate the problems of racism and they would still be worse off than white.

The problem with only tackling racism and not inequality and poverty is that, even if you removed racism completely, African-Americans would still be stuck with being poor, simply for historical reasons.

Just like poor white people are likely to have kids which are poor.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by sjwright on Sunday January 31, 2021 @03:36AM (#25977165)
> Poverty amplifies the problem of racism. But racism is what caused that poverty in the first place.

I partly agree, but I’d argue that it’s less complicated. I would rephrase thusly: Poverty IS the problem. And historical racism is the cause of a lot of that poverty.

> even if you removed racism completely, African-Americans would still be stuck with being poor, simply for historical reasons.

I agree in principle. The question is how you solve for systemic poverty. I think the first, most obvious step is to enact a very steep inheritance tax. That would be the most effective way to dampen generational capital inequality.

The second thing you could do is a generous UBI because that would dramatically benefit the systemically poor. The most effective way to lower income inequality is to raise the floor.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by cycrutchfield on Saturday January 30, 2021 @09:06PM (#25975074)
>Most racism in the USA can be explained by poverty—of which "POC" are disproportionately represented

And why do you think that is the case?

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by sjwright on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:38PM (#25975637)
Historical racism, especially slavery.
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by cycrutchfield on Sunday January 31, 2021 @04:31PM (#25982740)
Slavery ended 160 years ago. Other countries that practiced slavery don’t have as bad of problems as the US does now in terms of racial inequality.

You say historical racism, but what makes you think that it is only historical?

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by sjwright on Sunday January 31, 2021 @06:27PM (#25983697)
Did I say that slavery was the only reason? No.

Did I say racism is only historical? No.

Having words put in one's mouth makes conversation deeply uninteresting. Thus I shall end my contributions here.