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Re:Europe's Vaccine Disaster by noja on Saturday January 30, 2021 @03:13AM (#25967297)
> Chinese and the Russian vaccines were not even considered.

The Russian vaccine's "trial" was mostly a non-consensual trial carried out on their military. I expect this lowered confidence.

Does China have a vaccine with decent effectiveness yet? Last time I read about it, the number was around 50%.

Re:Europe's Vaccine Disaster by throwaway4good on Saturday January 30, 2021 @04:22AM (#25967618)
Turkey says China's Sinovac COVID vaccine 91.25% effective in late trials

https://www.google.dk/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/i...

Re:Europe's Vaccine Disaster by radu_floricica on Saturday January 30, 2021 @04:17AM (#25967585)
I don't see how being consensual or not has any bearing on its efficacy. Not to mention that any model I have of russian military (or any military) tells me that finding volunteers for a pandemic-ending vaccine would be a very easy task.
Re:Europe's Vaccine Disaster by viraptor on Saturday January 30, 2021 @07:12AM (#25968449)
> being consensual or not has any bearing on its efficacy

Not on efficacy, but in reported efficacy. Basically: if you're willing to be unethical about testing X, why would we trust you to be ethical when reporting about X.

Re:Europe's Vaccine Disaster by radu_floricica on Sunday January 31, 2021 @09:21AM (#25978999)
That's the opposite of the halo effect. They're bad guys, so everything about them is bad.

You can say that results are unreliable because they're not open about the details, or didn't provide enough data, or the data they provided doesn't make sense. Vaccinations being consensual or not is unrelated to the topic.