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Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by staticelf on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:12AM (#25939841)
It would only be a fair parable if your coffee shop was the only coffeshop in the entire city or that it exists like 1-3 others but you all talk with eachother on the phone and collectively agree to deny those people service.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by Traster on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:32AM (#25939954)
There are many coffee shops in the city and there are plenty of social media platforms online (Youtube, Facebook, Tiktok, Reddit, Twitter, Whatsapp, Telegram, Twitch, Pinterest, WeChat, Snapchat). Also, there's really no evidence they're coordinating. If the guys I kick out of my coffee shop walk down the road and start shouting Retard at each other in a different coffee shop they're going to get kicked out of that one too. Not because we're in some big cabal to censor these people, but because actually most people have a fairly similar definition of offensive language, and most coffee shop owners know what's going to drive customers away. At no point does that suddenly turn into censorship.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by staticelf on Thursday January 28, 2021 @07:01AM (#25940803)
I disagree, it is censorship. We all know how hard it is to build a community. To just say go use another platform is really not a fair comparison.

Discord and Reddit in this case, even if they're not banned from Reddit yet, is their only means of communicating with eachother. Sure people can create some kind of group / channel on another platform, but if they are banned from one there is no way for them to know where to go.

Obviously the group is going to be mostly dispanded when they are banned or removed. I would say this is a kind of censorship. If they would've been given some time, like a week or a month before the banning then I would agree it would not be censorship because then they can assemble somewhere else.

Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by jsilence on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:23AM (#25939904)
They are free to run their own Matrix, Mattermost, Rocketchat, IRC, whatever node...
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by nix23 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:44AM (#25940357)
Mumble? Teamspeak? It's like everyone forgot the old battle-tested Warhorses.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by ChainOfFools on Thursday January 28, 2021 @10:54AM (#25943795)
I think IRC (which OP mentioned) outranks them all ifor the battle tested warhorse title
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by jessaustin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @02:46PM (#25947909)
As if an IRC channel wouldn't be shut down if it threatened oligopoly profits...
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by jsilence on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:31PM (#25951042)
All of the big social media networks are corporate property. It is not a public space. So it is their house rules. And rightfully so. If you took their free cookie, choke on it, but don't complain.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by jessaustin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @09:17PM (#25952809)
Wow, that's aggressive.

All journalists, nearly all politicians, and lots of other people as well communicate largely on social networks owned by these giant amoral artificial creations. What does "public space" even mean anymore? Should we stand on the stroad median with the panhandlers? Would anyone even read our signs?

It is possible for citizens to impose conditions on the existence of the corporations their elected government creates.

Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by staticelf on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:56AM (#25940760)
Except when people do create their own shit, like Parler, it immedietly gets shut down as soon as it gets popular.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by onethought on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:23AM (#25939903)
And that still wouldn’t be censorship.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by staticelf on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:58AM (#25940772)
No ofc not, but that is a coffeshop and not a place where the business is sharing stuff. If the business is a town square where everyone is and your excluding a specific group that is censorship.
Re:Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went priv... by onethought on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:39PM (#25950517)
But it’s more like a country club than a town square. And 100% country clubs kick you out when you say things they don’t like.