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Re:The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s ... by gnicholas on Thursday January 28, 2021 @03:35AM (#25939588)
I went to a TED talk at UNGA week a few years ago, and the presenter talked about various things that can be done to limit climate change. At the top of the list was women's education/empowerment. This got a lot of applause from the audience, who were excited to clap for preventing climate change and empowering women at the same time.

The presenter did briefly mention the reason that these two laudable goals coincide, which is that women who are empowered and educated have fewer children. I don't think the presenter would have gotten quite so much applause if he had said "the number one thing we can do to prevent climate change is to make sure women in developing countries don't reproduce quite so much". And to be sure, he wasn't saying we should just fund birth control and abortions — he was framing that as a result of educating and empowering women.

But it's no coincidence that the Gates Foundation has dedicated hundreds of millions of dollars to their Family Planning initiative in Africa. [1]

So it may not be in the headlines, but the UN and others are surely aware of the impact of population growth.

1: https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-com...

Re:The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s ... by addicted on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:18AM (#25939879)
Your presenter is obviously wrong.

The US ans Europe with far smaller populations have significantly greater climate footprints than China and India, for example. And that’s before we adjust for the fact that a lot of China’s footprint is US/European footprint outsourced to China.

Indians having fewer kids will do nothing to reduce the already too large impact of the existing US/European populations.

Also the idea that women empowerment will help with reducing kids is decades old. If your audience was surprised by this, then they are clearly not well versed in any related topics.

Re:The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s ... by MagnumOpus on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:49AM (#25940389)
> The US ans Europe with far smaller populations have significantly greater climate footprints than China

That was true twenty years ago. After two decades of decarbonisation in the west and the opposite in China, China emits far more CO2 than the US and the EU taken together.

And even per capita, China has been emitting more than the EU for the last 5 years or more. (Yes, the US emissions per capita are still ridiculous.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

Re:The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s ... by cudgy on Friday January 29, 2021 @12:13AM (#25954250)
It wasn’t “decarbonization” that caused the shift, it was the “deconstruction” of the Western manufacturing complex.

China assumed the environmental pollution of the previously significant manufacturing industry of the United States and other countries that succumbed to the short-sighted leaders of manufacturing companies who were riding the globalist wave of the last 30-40 years.

Re:The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s ... by cipher_system on Thursday January 28, 2021 @01:34PM (#25946590)
What was the presenter wrong about?

And can't both be true? Developed countries need to reduce per capita emissions and developing countries need to reduce capita increase. 1000 * 1 = 100 * 10 and 2000 * 1 > 100 * 10.

Also on the plus side, reducing excessive population growth will reduce local resource need and thus local resource wars.