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Re:Visual Tcl by Kototama on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:31AM (#25927408)
GUI builder for desktop applications in 90s were really useful in increasing the productivity of programmers. It is sad to see how complex it is to build the UI of a web application in comparison. And there is no definite answer on the best way to do it neither.

Of course now you can expose your app to the whole world. But instead of thinking what it means at the application level you spend lot of brain cycles just setting up the styles and uncoupling presentation and logic.

Re:Visual Tcl by dmux on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @09:04AM (#25928362)
I wonder if we'll ever see a middle ground take over where apps are developed in that 90's GUI builder style but instead of purely desktop applications, they're more akin to tiny internet applications like this idea from Rebol: http://www.rebol.com/reblets.html
Re:Visual Tcl by Kototama on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @09:39AM (#25928774)
Did you try that? Was it good?
Re:Visual Tcl by dmux on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:45AM (#25930386)
I've never tried it, no. Just something I've read about in the past and it seems like something that could be easily done with Tcl and its "safe" interpreter mechanism.
Re:Visual Tcl by tabtab on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:44PM (#25935180)
Indeed! I've been trying to figure out if we MUST sacrifice such productivity and K.I.S.S. to get web or web-like features for rank and file CRUD intranet apps. Are the bottlenecks solvable? Related debate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/comments/kn20yi/start_with_a...