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Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by whiddershins on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @10:22AM (#25916757)
Al Gore and George Bush had lawsuits going for many weeks that ultimately went to the Supreme Court.
Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by TYPE_FASTER on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:48AM (#25918007)
Florida counties ran an automated recount, as required by law. Under Florida law, candidates could request a manual recount as well. Bush sued to stop the recount, and won. Gore conceded on December 13.

Details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidentia...

Contrast this to 2020, where there were 86 lawsuits after the election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related...

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Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by tzs on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:10AM (#25917442)
> I have looked at even just some of the evidence and just alone the statistical data indicates extremely strongly that at least something was clearly wrong that would cause any good faith and rational person to at least want to look further at the data. And there are several instances like that, not even just one that I found.

Are you talking about something other than the Beneford's law stuff or the lead changing overnight in places that count in-person votes before they count mail-in votes or that finish counting rural areas before they finish counting urban areas?

Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by belltaco on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @10:54AM (#25917204)
If what you say is true, then didn't Trump appointed judges and Republican judges not evaluate the evidence and sworn affidavits? Why didn't Barr, a heavily partisan and biased Trump sycophant who meddled with prior investigations, not investigate all that being the head of the DoJ? If he somehow turned rogue, why didn't Trump fire him and replace him with someone who would investigate?

Do you have any reasonable explanation for the above? Mine is that all the evidence was hearsay and even Trump and Republicans knew it wasn't credible, he just did that to get this campaign to make even more money by fooling people, and for political gain.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundra...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-11/trump-rea...

Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by aw1621107 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:17AM (#25917545)
> NONE of the courts have even looked at the evidence this time

This is as incorrect a statement as one can possibly make. Multiple lawsuits did look at evidence (Law v. Whitmer, Bowyer v. Ducey, and King v. Whitmer, for example), and the evidence submitted was found to be far from sufficient to support the complaint.

> not just dozens, of sworn affidavits that certify that fraudulent activities were witnessed

I just don’t understand why the fixation on the number of affidavits. The quantity of affidavits is rather meaningless on its own; it’s the quality that is far more important. There’s a good reason why defendants have won despite submitting far fewer depositions and/or affidavits in relevant cases: because ultimately it’s the quality of evidence that matters, and a few high-quality depositions/affidavits are worth more than an ocean of inadmissible fluff.

> I have looked at even just some of the evidence and just alone the statistical data indicates extremely strongly that at least something was clearly wrong that would cause any good faith and rational person to at least want to look further at the data.

What analyses did you look at?

And that also begs the question: did you look further into the analyses? Because most, if not all, the ones I’ve seen tend to either fall apart as soon as one takes a closer look (e.g., 700+% turnout for a nonexistent county/township), are incomplete (Dr. Ayyadurai’s analysis), or are rather meaningless (the statistical analysis submitted in Texas v. Pennsylvania).

> how is it that of the bellwether districts that have all, for the last 10 presidential elections essentially all gone to the winning candidate … both Democrat and Republican … all but two went to Trump this time.

Because such correlation is not causation. They’ll be right right up until they aren’t.

Same thing with statements like “Republicans need Ohio to win”. There’s no inherent reason why that must be the case, so when it isn’t you can’t draw strong conclusions from that.*

Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by greggturkington on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @10:23AM (#25916786)
And Trump's team had tens of lawsuits across Pennsylvania, Nevada, Georgia, and Michigan. Many of them dismissed without merit.

You're comparing that to Bush v Gore?!

Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by insickness on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @10:35AM (#25916959)
What's wrong with lawsuits? You should want the election contested legally. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by greggturkington on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @10:50AM (#25917158)
I agree you should want the election contested legally.

Trump and his attorneys falsely asserting widespread election fraud in public statements you should not want.

Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by Simulacra on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:41AM (#25917884)
Absolutely agree. We should want elections contested legally, in the courts, no matter what the whacked out crazy or inherently false claims there might be. That's what the courts are there for and it's really IMO why they are a third branch, not a subsidiary, of the government. Let the lawsuits go forward. Let the courts decide on their merits, so we have finality and case law for the future. IMHO it was a mistake for the Supreme Court not to hear the Texas lawsuit. It almost certainly was not going to prevail, but by summarily declining to even hear the case, it undermines the judiciaries independence.
Re:Google won't donate to members of Congress who voted agai... by debaserab2 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:56AM (#25918136)
The courts DID decide on the Texas case, though. When a case is presented to the SC that "is almost certainly not going to prevail", this often (and undoubtedly so in the texas case) means that there is a fundamental misunderstanding or misrepresentation of law that is so egregious there is no opinion to be had. This is exactly what the SC justices said in this case:

> The State of Texas’s motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution. Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot. [1]

The courts essentially decided the cases have no merit to rule on.

[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p86...