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Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by jojobas on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:12PM (#25899003)
There's no decent or indecent wine. Nobody can tell a $500 wine from $10 wine in a blind tasting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by zizee on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:24PM (#25899096)
There is definitely good wine and not so good wine, if you define "good" as something you like.

I could believe that there is a tenuous link between price and quality, but that's not the same as saying there is no good wine.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by jojobas on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:32PM (#25899163)
Have a friend hold a blind tasting for you.

Did that to a couple of headstrong wine people, they were unable to tell their favorite (chardonnay for one and shiraz for another) from a bunch of AUD7 bottles.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by al3xandre on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:18AM (#25899938)
There can be such a wide range of different wines within « chardonnay » and « Shiraz » that saying one of the two is you « favorite wine » is meaningless. Hence the outcome of this blind testing.
Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by rblatz on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:02AM (#25899440)
My wife and I accidentally did an experiment the other day. Grabbed a random bottle we got as a gift to drink with our pizza. It was a cab sauv which is a wine we usually don’t care for. We both were surprised at how much we did like it and how smooth it was. The next day we were shopping at target and saw it was an $85 bottle of wine.

Not sure if we could have told it from a $40 bottle, but it certainly stood head and shoulders above the $20 bottles we typically buy.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by al3xandre on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:16AM (#25899929)
95% of people are also unable to tell the difference between a secure properly e2e encrypted chat, and an insecure chat.

Does that mean that there is no insecure and secure chat softwares?

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by nojster on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:47AM (#25900087)
With e2e vs insecure, there is an objective differentiating factor, while in wine (apart from price, there apparently isn’t).

To leverage your example, it would be like selling “secure e2e chat” (label) at a high price, although it uses insecure tech.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by acct776 on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:22AM (#25899956)
Yeah, alcohol quality shows itself off the next morning when waking up not in pain, for me.
Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by jonny_eh on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:47AM (#25900093)
If people claimed that e2e encrypted chats were more enjoyable, you may have had a point.
Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by peteretep on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:26PM (#25899111)
You are making a much stronger assertion than is supported by your link
Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by jojobas on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:44PM (#25899274)
>...the objective evaluation of large numbers of wines as currently attempted at wine competitions is, he asserts, "beyond human ability".

Wine experts also can't tell if they're tasting 3 glasses from the same bottle.

I don't mean to say you can't stuff up a batch of wine, but basically everything that made it to the store in the current state of quality control is good enough to not be told apart by anyone.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by peteretep on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:36AM (#25899674)
> Wine experts also can't tell if they're tasting 3 glasses from the same bottle.

No. It is possible to select three different wines that even people with excellent palettes can't really differentiate between, and it is possible with some suggestion to make people believe the same wine is different wines. It is also true that some wine "experts" have terrible palettes.

That is not the same piece of information as "wine experts also can't tell if they're tasting 3 glasses from the same bottle".

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by jojobas on Monday January 25, 2021 @05:15PM (#25909686)
I'm referring to this paper quote in the wikipedia article:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-wine-econ...

They literally fed the same judges the same wine in multiple glasses and got different scores.

Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by zaphirplane on Monday January 25, 2021 @07:47AM (#25902522)
I took that to mean the high volume in competition affects the consistency of the results
Re:American Airlines has so much extra wine that it is start... by esoterica on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:36PM (#25899196)
Nothing in the link you posted supports your assertion.