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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by baybal2 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @07:37PM (#25897741)
> Why can't they keep things going temporarily by spinning up those n-th tier fab wannabes?

Years long lead times. Every 200mm fab around is booked for at least 1y+ despite biggest increases in capacity in decades.

A labs scale manufacturing can be setup within months, but it takes 3-4 years to setup AMHS fit fabs on a commercially profitable scale invariably of the technology level involved.

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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by totalZero on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:24AM (#25899603)
It was a rhetorical question answered by the succeeding paragraph.

> Years long lead times. Every 200mm fab around is booked for at least 1y+ despite biggest increases in capacity in decades.

This is precisely my point. There is a need for more capacity.

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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by donw on Sunday January 24, 2021 @08:39PM (#25898082)
> Every 200mm fab

I know this is a typo, but that would explain the dimensional trend in smartphones...

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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by sanxiyn on Sunday January 24, 2021 @09:17PM (#25898322)
Not a typo. 200 mm refers to wafer size.
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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by donw on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:00PM (#25898918)
Ah, that makes a lot more sense than a 200nm chip in 2021.

Still, I'm not going to get the image of a city-sized IC out of my head.

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Re:Japanese companies fight for share of EUV chip technology... by szatkus on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:32AM (#25899654)
It's size of the wafer.

http://audilab.bmed.mcgill.ca/~funnell/InforMed/Bacon/HW/pri...

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