Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by rbanffy on Sunday January 24, 2021 @06:11PM
(#25897183)
I really like NNTP, but spam was becoming a huge problem in the Usenet and its nature makes it harder to assert the identity of a poster.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by sdenton4 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @06:45PM
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I mean, if people want to give out helpful information about gland enlargement alongside links to where supplements can be purchased for the astonishingly low price of $12 a pill, who are we to try to stop them? Provide an unfiltered free speech platform and the stronger ideas will win, right?
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by coderaptor on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:50PM
(#25899334)
Just provide more effective tools allowing users to tune their own feeds.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by vkou on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:54AM
(#25899791)
With a profit or ideological motive, I can spam you, and shout over all meaningful communication much faster than you can block me.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by jjoonathan on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:52AM
(#25900125)
Yeah, and the idea of a spam filter won.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by saurik on Monday January 25, 2021 @02:04AM
(#25900185)
Spam filters can be opt-in. Spam filters can be federated. Spam filters can be local. It simply isn't true that decentralized censorship resistant systems fundamentally require users to be inundated with spam.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by jjoonathan on Monday January 25, 2021 @11:17AM
(#25904895)
I wish that were the case.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by tlavoie on Sunday January 24, 2021 @04:56PM
(#25896552)
Usenet over UUCP worked just fine, with UUCP serving up email too on the dial-up batch syncs.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by klyrs on Sunday January 24, 2021 @08:15PM
(#25897956)
> Killfiles!
Ah yes, censorship rears its ghastly head again. Or, what a quaint approach to spam.
Re:Our experience with the Fediverse, and why we left
by dsr_ on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:49AM
(#25902133)
The charitable explanation is that you don't know what a killfile is. It is a personally created and maintained list of subject lines and/or poster addresses that you don't want to see. They can be limited to specific groups or be universal; they can be used to remove entire threads or just the messages that match.
In other words, it's a personal filter on incoming information. It's Joo Janta Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses. If it is censorship, it is a censor who works for you, obeys your commands, and never imposes your opinions on anyone else.
And it's not particularly good for spam, nor does anyone think that is its purpose. A killfile works against persistent trolls and idiots.
Maybe it's time for Usenet to come back.
- Truly federated
- Topic focus instead of people-focus
- Killfiles!
- Proper threading
- Standards-based servers and clients