Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25
by dkarl on Saturday January 23, 2021 @11:58AM
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Somehow Java attracted more than its fair share -- way more -- of programmers who wanted to believe that software development had all been figured out, the right answers were known, and the only thing that remained for the profession was to be faithful to the true answers and priggish towards anyone who had doubts. That was a really weird time, especially in retrospect when we think about what the "right" answers were back then.
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Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25
by parasubvert on Saturday January 23, 2021 @12:02PM
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That’s a side effect of enterprise software development, because politically it’s all about posturing to make non-technical management more comfortable. “Wow they’re really confident they must know what they’re doing”
The same attitude existed in C++ programmers in that space that sneered at Java’s intrusion.
I see the same attitude in new teams using Golang in the enterprise.
Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25
by freedomben on Saturday January 23, 2021 @12:29PM
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Yes, excellent observation. I've seen that attitude a ton in the "design patterns" discussion. e.g.:
"Why are we doing a Factory for Singleton Factory design pattern here?"
"Because this design pattern is made for this scenario"
This. Exactly this. It wasn't that Java was a "different" way of doing things in business software that had pros and cons, it was that its adherents thought it was THE way of doing things in business software.