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Re:Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption by jjav on Saturday January 23, 2021 @04:51AM (#25881050)
Pre-pandemic I was commuting to a large bay area employer. About a ~hundred or so chargers in the parking lots.

The choices were to either arrive very, very early (<8am) or you missed it. Then had to wait until around 4+pm when the early risers started to leave and move the car to a charging spot.

I mostly left after 7pm so it was ok but on days when I had to go at 5pm it was a big problem, didn't have time to get enough charge to get back home.

Also, there's not enough power available to feed all the chargers simultaneously. So when all chargers are used and charging, the power delivery dropped to ~1.5kW. As cars started to get full and stopped drawing power only then power delivery would rise later in the day. So there's no way to install a thousand+ more chargers, there's not enough power delivery available.

Re:Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption by erik_seaberg on Saturday January 23, 2021 @05:06AM (#25881141)
I don’t know how anyone is so casual about this. If a charger is only available half the time, I have to plan as if it weren’t there, and then what good is it?

I can run my gas tank down below 1/4 because the Bay Area is littered with 24 hour gas stations; I never have to wait a day to get gas. I’m considering a PHEV, but I can’t buy a BEV until a large majority of apartments (or maybe employers, after WFH ends) have that kind of reliable charging whenever I might need it.

Re:Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption by jjav on Saturday January 23, 2021 @05:41AM (#25881300)
To be honest I'm not casual about it, it's always very stressful if I have to drive the electric car!

I'm ok driving the e-car to work if I know for sure I can stay there until well past 7pm. If there's any chance I might need to leave before 7pm I want to drive my other (not electric) car.

On the few days where I need to leave early and can't drive the gasoline car (because wife needs it), I spend all afternoon stressing about it and walking to the parking lot every 30 minutes to look for empty spots to get the charging started ASAP so I can get home. Not fun.

Re:Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption by s_fischer on Saturday January 23, 2021 @11:43AM (#25883669)
Imo, this is the single biggest argument that can still be validly made to prevent the mass adoption of EVs.

People, for the most part, are easy to convince when it comes to buying expensive products that promise to reduce the amount of stress in their lives. Not so much for products that they are told will do the opposite though.