Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by wtallis on Friday January 22, 2021 @03:56PM
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Your list is missing an entry:
0. The existence of a scrollbar tells you there's something to be scrolled.
Flat UIs are pretty good at accidentally hiding the fact that not all of the content fits on screen on in whatever borderless frame.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by function_seven on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:15PM
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It's always fun when the content layout naturally fits into the viewport in such a way to make it look like there's nothing down below.
Also fun when websites that are waging their holy war against the bars don't anticipate that I'm zoomed in a bit. Having to delve into devtools to disable "overflow: hidden" is a delight.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by crysin on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:47PM
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Whats worse is when a website has a footer but they have a never-ending scroll div between the header and footer so as you approach the footer more content loads pushing the footer even further down.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by IggleSniggle on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:10PM
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Just this year I was trying to explain to mom how to do something with an iPhone.
There’s about a million different secret handshakes and gestures in iOS UI, but I consider the most egregious UI failure to be the “Share” button, which manages to pop up a modal in such a way that it often disguises both that it can be be scrolled vertically AND that it can be scrolled horizontally.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by ryanjshaw on Friday January 22, 2021 @03:56PM
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Don't forget the near religious debate that is scrollbar snapback: skim a document backwards to review an earlier point, or forwards to determine if it's worth further time investment, and then release the mouse button outside the scroll area so that you can snapback and continue where you left off.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by shard on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:20PM
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Where is this feature available or implemented? I just tried in Chrome and Powerpoint, neither has this feature.
Re:Remembering Windows 3.1 themes and user empowerment
by recursive on Friday January 22, 2021 @11:55PM
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I've never seen an app that didn't have that feature. Chrome included. I don't have powerpoint around to test at the moment. I've been using this feature since the 90s, and I'd miss it sorely if it were to be disappeared.
2. Size of elevator in relation to the scrollbar tells me what percentage of the content is viewable (except when the size of the elevator becomes so small it makes it unusable).
3. Up and down buttons allow a simple way to bring the next or previous item into view.
A lot of the hate of scrollbars comes from the web, where browser scrollbars could not be styled and didn't necessarily use the operating system's style. You could have a beautiful page be ruined by the default windows 3.11 style scrollbars in the browser.