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Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by lettergram on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:33PM (#25868353)
No you can’t that’s the “range” if it’s sunny Southern California on flat terrain. And even that might only be 160 miles.

people regularly drive to cities which is like 300-400 miles round trip. They need to pull 1 ton in a truck. There’s snow on the road and no charging station, do you want to freeze?

I’m not saying we won’t get there, just saying right now hybrids (which I actually own) are the only real option for people outside of a metropolitan area (or if they just want to drive local, which is fine). Pacifica hybrids are great, they have 30 mile full battery power. Then switch to gas. I drive locally 90% is the time, but can still drive to the closest major city 160 miles away

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by nawgz on Friday January 22, 2021 @12:13AM (#25868553)
> for people outside of a metropolitan area

As a Bay Area resident, let me tell you: I have driven all over California and there are Tesla’s meeting me at each spot. You’re in the past with this take.

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by lettergram on Friday January 22, 2021 @01:48AM (#25869116)
Try driving in Alabama, Minnesota, etc.

Like I said, we will get there. It’s really not there yet. I too lived in the Bay and regularly went down to San Diego. Much easier to do if you’re willing to take a couple 20 min breaks on the way (pretty normal). There are charging stations though. It’s always warm, roads are flat, etc

All I was saying is Tesla is good for what it is. It’s not well suited (today) for country or even some suburbs. For those instances hybrids are a better fit

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by nawgz on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:14AM (#25869273)
I don’t think you realize how big California is. You could fit 3 Alabama’s in California.

When I was in Alabama, I drove across Alabama to Florida and back in an evening. A Tesla could handle that no problem. 300 miles is a long range...

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by chrisseaton on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:37PM (#25868361)
> people regularly drive to cities which is like 300-400 miles round trip

A second ago you only needed 100-200 miles a day?

> Many of us like the idea of EV, but also drive 100-200 miles a day.

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by lettergram on Friday January 22, 2021 @01:57AM (#25869175)
I used to drive ~180 miles round trip a day for work. A Tesla wouldn’t have been able to pull that off. Particularly in cold weather in the hills. But even assuming there was a charging station at work (enabling the round trip) - I also regularly drove to other cities(weekends and such) that would be 300-400 miles away. There are no charging stations anywhere in between.

This was / is common in my area. My point is that a Tesla works well in many cases, particularly in densely populated regions. They work less well if you have to drive distances, carry a heavy load, and especially not if it’s more rugged. All the more true if you have kids, particularly young ones where a 20 min charging break is rough. Or running out of charge could be a problem.

Hybrids are really much better suited to these scenarios. I think EVs will get there, they’re always closing gaps, just right now less densely populated areas make less sense.

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by ogre_codes on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:55PM (#25868467)
Careful, they haven't even started talking about the weekly 1000 mile road trips.

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Towing a boat uphill the whole way.

Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2... by ryathal on Friday January 22, 2021 @11:25AM (#25873015)
I don't personally need a daily drive that long, but my last three Saturdays have been 250-350 miles.