Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by SulfurHexaFluri on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:01PM
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Apple seems to be moving away from trying to sell more iphones and instead in to getting iphone users to buy more kinds of things. You now have AirPods, the Apple Watch, and a million other things which each can last quite a while but add up to what would have been a new phone every year.
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by mike00632 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:41PM
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Write, buy, sell more software and art!
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by in_me_i_trust on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:55PM
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Agreed, we need to change the mindset of being unwilling to pay $5 for an app while spending $1000 on a new phone every 2 years
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by Triv888 on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:19AM
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> Yes, the economy will take a hit.
Just print money until you make it.
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by alisonkisk on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:07PM
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A phone every 3 years is barely a blip in the "disposable stuff" department
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by fomine3 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:12PM
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They uses rare metals.
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by zdragnar on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:20PM
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They use an utterly insignificant amount compared to an EV though...
Re:Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2...
by datameta on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:46AM
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So if we have 7.2 millions PEVs (all-electric + hybrid)[0] how does that compare to the 4.8 billion phone users (smart + feature)[1]? If we assume only 1 phone per person (and ignore how many are in landfills) that's 667 phones per electric vehicle. I wonder how that compares in terms of rare earth metal usage.
The lifecycle of a vehicle is probably ~2-20 times that of a phone so let's say a single magnitude. That gives us 6600 phones per vehicle lifetime. Granted - the smartphone market will stay within a magnitude (not everyone can be an HK taxi driver with 7 phones)
Now global EV adoption will increase by ~3 magnitudes by the time the market saturates and there might be a magnitude separating phone count from EVs.
[0] https://evstatistics.com/2020/06/global-electric-vehicle-sto...
[1] https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/how-many-phones-are-in-the-w...
Good! We need to stop manufacturing so much disposable shit.
Yes, the economy will take a hit. We need new ways of defining progress than "money spent" and "shit manufactured". There are other ways to define and provide value in a post-modern society.