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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by mathnode on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:44PM (#25866291)
MariaDB came out with the BSL license for projects like maxcale to help protect against AWS nonsense (and the like). The mysql -> mariadb response is completely different, but no less terrible.

This is history repeating itself as Amazon, once again, attempt to gut open source efforts.

For a short while Amazon did contribute to some MariaDB projects.

MongoDB now have similar license and AWS offers compatible API's.

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by Rudisimo on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:12PM (#25868227)
Yet, MongoDB seems to maintain a healthy, symbiotic relationship with AWS [1][2][3].

[1]: https://www.mongodb.com/cloud/atlas/lp/try2 [2]: https://www.mongodb.com/cloud/atlas/aws-mongodb [3]: https://www.mongodb.com/mongodb-on-aws

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by ayush--s on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:21AM (#25869309)
it does feel like the whole issue blew up so much because AWS & Elastic.co are unable to work together. We many never know the details, so can't say who's in the wrong here.
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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by popcorncowboy on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:42AM (#25870789)
> help protect against AWS nonsense

Not gaslighting, legit questions follow:

It's not clear to me how taking open source software and providing commercial managed services is "nonsense"? Or is it specifically when AWS does it that it's not okay?

Either way, is there something specific at play that makes it fundamentally different from say WPEngine running hosted Wordpress? Is it purely a function of scale?

If a startup decides that Kubernetes is worth providing a managed service for at what point does providing that managed service become "AWS nonsense"? Is there a revenue watermark beyond which what they're doing becomes unfair? Or is k8s ok because it's backed by a mega-corp already?

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by virtue3 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @04:12AM (#25890539)
AWS repeatedly said they were "together with elastic" in service offerings. They apparently were not, so they were just running on elastics coat tails, offering nothing to elastic, and saying they were totally together.

It's hilarious that you picked K8. K8 destroyed dockers ability to make money. They were planning on rolling out their own system, but didn't get it out fast enough and got eaten.

Was k8 nonsense? no, they made a product from the ground up.

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