AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana

Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by jeswin on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:40PM (#25866245)

There is no meaningful way for an independent vendor to compete with a Cloud Provider offering the same service. It gets bundled in the initial sales pitch, promoted in their documentation and at events, and gets heavily discounted.

It simply becomes the default - and (if on AWS) nobody will even think of Elastic after a couple of years.

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by manigandham on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:48PM (#25867712)

And yet many companies are competing just fine. Elastic's biggest growth comes from cloud services, which matches every other database vendor from MongoDB to Redis. [1].

AWS just proved that the market wants to buy solutions, not software. There are tons of customers and environments where a dedicated vendor can offer something far better than the lowest-common-denominator that AWS provides.

If you want another success story, just look at how Snowflake built a better Redshift on AWS (quite literally).

1. Start at page 23 of their earnings report: https://s2.q4cdn.com/265747582/files/doc_financials/2021/q2/...

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by mr_toad on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:32PM (#25867990)

The big three may have some advantages, but there are numerous smaller competitors.

The biggest advantage the big three have is that some people don’t even bother looking for alternatives.

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by Spivak on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:53PM (#25866377)

You compete by not competing. Make your software proprietary and sell it to the cloud provider for hefty license fees.

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