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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by rcconf on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:21PM (#25866042)
I am so delighted to hear this. Open source wins again. Open source is the right for you to do whatever you want with the software, AND YES, that includes monetize it. I've been sitting on the sidelines reading the different perspectives, but I just cannot see how you can be on the side of Elasticsearch. How can they take all the work from the OSS community and add a clause that THEY only can monetize it? I will tell you right now, I have NO desire to ever contribute to the closed version of Elasticsearch and I will gladly jump on board and contribute to the AWS version. We are watching in real time the OSS community being degraded by these ridiculous licenses.

The greed here is on Elasticsearch and not on AWS. If you wanted to have a closed source piece of software that you have the only rights to monetize, then you should have closed it off from the beginning instead of taking all the work from the OSS community and giving the rights for ONLY you to monetize it.

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by annilt on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:11PM (#25866534)
So after witnessing all these problems, more projects will start closed source or with restrictive licenses(GPLs) instead of OSS or more permissive licenses. This is how OSS community is being degraded. A few tech giants are disrupting entire OSS community. It may be legal/morally ok(or not I dont care) for AWS to do this but it is for sure we’ll have less OSS because of this.
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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by john4532452 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @10:29AM (#25892798)
Closed source software will not attract talented developers unless a lot of money is poured in to it. It is okay to have closed source, but its not okay to take the contributions of the open source and then later make it closed source.
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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by andrewshadura on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:29AM (#25871911)
The GPL is an open-source license.
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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by mytherin on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:00AM (#25870158)
I'm really confused by your perspective. How is this a win for open source? A big open source project has just shifted away from open source to protect their revenue stream, and now serves as (yet another) warning against other companies to open source their code because Amazon will eat your lunch.

No matter what you believe is right I fail to see how events such as this are anything but bad for open source. This will directly lead to fewer companies working on open source code, fewer jobs available writing open source code, and fewer code being available outside of the closed-source moats of tech giants for smaller companies to use.

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by kemitchell on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:41PM (#25868377)
If all you want is Apache 2.0 Elasticsearch, period, there isn't really much good news here. Amazon declared an intention to compete with Elastic NV. But the race hasn't even started yet. It remains to be seen whether Amazon's fork will keep up, whether the forks will remain compatible, whether they'll both last, long-term.

Whatever happened to that pure-AGPL fork of MongoDB?

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