Re:Instacart to cut 1,900 jobs, including its only union roles
by Frondo on Thursday January 21, 2021 @08:31PM
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Taft-Hartley banned the "closed shop," where you must join a union to work at a business, in 1947. You will never be forced to join a union anywhere in the US to work at any given employer.
Re:Instacart to cut 1,900 jobs, including its only union roles
by ars on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:51PM
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That's not true. You misunderstand the rules.
Google: "closed shop vs union shop" and you will see.
Basically you cannot have a business that only hires from a union, but you can have a business that requires you to join a union after being hired meaning the union cannot prevent you from joining them.
Or in other words in non-right-to-work states you can be forced to join a union.
Re:Instacart to cut 1,900 jobs, including its only union roles
by Frondo on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @01:07PM
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Under the NLRA, you are never required to join a union. You may be required to pay union dues, and the union will still represent you in collective bargaining, but that doesn't make you a union member.
It's a bigger problem in non Right to Work states, where you can be forced to join the union (and have dues taken from you).
In places where joining the union for their benefits is voluntary I don't see the problem.
There are also places where you don't have to join the union, but they still take some of the wages (at a lower rate than full members) for nebulous "benefits" the union offers. Those are especially contentious because not all the employee believe they get any benefits at all.
The US should shift to the European model where multiple unions are available at each employer, and they compete with each other for membership. I believe joining a union is required there, they don't have any non-union jobs, but a European union is not the same as a US one.