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Re:Ask HN: Anyone know any funny programming jokes? by cornel_io on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:11AM (#25857337)
They're actually more common than engineers with understanding of project management or the concerns that they quite reasonably have. And they're way more valuable than a zug-zug eng.

I say this as a pure engineer who has been a lead many times but never a PM.

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