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Re:Have we already been visited by aliens? by matheusmoreira on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:20PM (#25854551)
Happens all the time. People's ideas get ignored even when they have evidence backing them up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

> Despite various publications of results where hand washing reduced mortality to below 1%, Semmelweis's observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community.

> He could offer no acceptable scientific explanation for his findings, and some doctors were offended at the suggestion that they should wash their hands and mocked him for it.

Re:Have we already been visited by aliens? by XorNot on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:17PM (#25855324)
Medical doctors and surgeons are not scientists. They don't do research, they don't publish papers. Medical research is an entirely different field which overlaps in skills sometimes.

But MDs are more like mechanics for the human body.

Re:Have we already been visited by aliens? by matheusmoreira on Thursday January 21, 2021 @01:57AM (#25856278)
Many doctors publish research. Is that not science?
Re:Have we already been visited by aliens? by XorNot on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:58PM (#25868148)
The point is that there's a difference between medical doctors as a profession, and medical doctors by training engaged in research.

It's not a homogenous demographic, and it doesn't have a substantial overlap. So there is a very large (super-majority) of medical doctors who have absolutely no training in research, statistics etc. Because it's not what they do - they are not scientists. Their training is about their obligations to follow current developments in best practice, drug prescriptions etc. (or the same but for surgical technique) and apply it. They do not do science, they don't even necessarily particularly understand the scientific method.

So it is absolutely incorrect to imply that all medical professionals are "the scientific community". They're not. Those which participate in and publish research are but that is not even a significant fraction of their population.

Comparisons about what general population surgeons and medical doctors historically reacted to changes in practice does not say anything about the idea that these people represent a peer-reviewed scientific consensus, because they didn't. They represent the equivalent of a mechanic rejecting manufacturer recommendations on fuel quality and complaining about it to their colleagues.