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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by bitwize on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:14AM (#25847344)
There is strong support for accepting a broader definition of open source, one that accounts for ethical concerns including what other people use your software for (e.g., warfare, ICE) and whether you are compelled to allow competitors to eat your lunch by deploying your software as a service if you want to be true-Scotsman OSS. Over time this support will grow, until the voices who advocate hewing to the narrow 1990s OSI definition will be in the minority.

It's time to move beyond pedantry in open source and address the concerns of real-world software authors.

Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by ddevault on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:22AM (#25847432)
Strong, perhaps, but not broad. Open source doesn't work like this. What you argue for may have merit, but it's not open source. Just give it a new name and allow it to flourish under that name. I've recommended "fair source" ror "ethical source" before, for example. Someday we may find that this new movement makes open source obsolete! But until then, terms are important, and the members of the open source community would appreciate it if you respected that.
Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by arp242 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:54AM (#25847874)
I, for one, am rather glad that the first computers were used in warfare to defeat the Nazis, with both the British and Americans employing computers for this.

Of course, not all warfare is the second world war; in fact, most of it isn't. But I think a blanket opposition to "software used in warfare" is too simplistic. The real problems are when a country starts a war for unjust reasons, and this is a political problem, not a technological one. In many ways a sufficiently powerful military (and warfare, or the threat thereof) is vital to protect safety and basic rights.

The development of the atom bomb is how it's been used over the decades is something we can have plenty of moral questions about, but the thing is that after the development of physics up to a point, an atom bomb was kind of an obvious thing, and the same technology has also been used for many other non-warfare purposes. Technologically speaking, you can't really have one without the other (but you can make a political choice to do so).

In short, I understand why people are concerned about these kind of things, but I think solving them on a technological level is the wrong approach.