Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commercial exploitation

Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by mettamage on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:52AM (#25847073)

I wouldn't take the term so strongly.

The way I see it in the way my grandparent meant it, exploitation is a capitalistic word and frame/narrative. For example, all companies are exploiting employees (by gaining a profit on them) and certain business opportunities in some shape or form. That doesn't mean it's necessarily bad as "giving back" might be part of that exploitation. Many businesses have incentives to keep the exploitation sustainable.

If you have an issue with this, then you have an issue with capitalism, IMO. And that's fine, but I wouldn't frame it as having an issue against exploitation.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:16AM (#25847367)

The casualness with which you're fine to exploit, not 'employ' your employees is a bit unsettling.

If you can't hear the issue with your language, go tell your reports that you've decided to exploit them.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by musingsole on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:20AM (#25847419)

Come off it. 'Exploit' is as much a technical term used all over economics as it is the colloquial word for "taking advantage of" with a negative context. If you want to police someone's language, find some more solid ground.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:18AM (#25848209)

I will not come off it. This is an article about open source being exploited in the negative sense of the word. And the op seemed to want to do more of the same. So, pretty solid, I'd say.

Communication is key!

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by ddevault on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:20AM (#25847412)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit

Definition of exploit: transitive verb

1: to make productive use of : UTILIZE

exploiting your talents

exploit your opponent's weakness

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:13AM (#25848143)

Conveniently leaving out the second definition from your own link:

2 : to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage, exploiting migrant farm workers

The article is about definition 2 folks.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by musingsole on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:21AM (#25848251)

I too find the key to communication is to ignore the definition plainly being used by those I'm talking with in favor of a secondary definition that allows me to manufacture a needless gripe out of the thin air.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by benchaney on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:23AM (#25848268)

What difference does it make if there is an alternate meaning to the word than the one they are using?

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by pseudalopex on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @04:31PM (#25852266)

They wrote the article.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @12:05AM (#25855642)

But not the comment (I hope). Either way, it doesn't matter, the commenter I replied to gave me a thoughtful response and I have to admit that I was wrong.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by pseudalopex on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:55AM (#25857974)

The same person wrote the article and the comment you replied to.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @08:46AM (#25858698)

I'm talking hardwaresofton's original comment that started this chain. His reply was helpful. I'm not talking about Drew's comments in this chain. Drew's comments have not been useful.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by pseudalopex on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:07AM (#25860342)

You said the article used definition 2. Not hardwaresofton's comment.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by fartcannon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:20PM (#25866025)

Yes, it does. But hardwaresofton convinced me his comment used 1, when I thought it was part 2 and it was his comment that triggered this conversation.

Perhaps you're confused because of the order the comments appear in? You might have to see the time stamps, and track the numerous replies I made in the tree of comments.

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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by ddevault on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:19AM (#25848224)

Aye, there are two definitions. They are not reliant on each other.

The word "lead" also has several definitions, among them: the metal, and the thing you use to walk your dog. A dog needn't be involved in the former, nor the metal in the latter.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lead

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