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Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by bayindirh on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:42AM (#25845225)
I don't think so. They have a lot of things to produce in their fabs. Optane, Chipsets, NAND (if they still produce it), sensors, FPGAs, Ethernet Controllers, etc.

They're considering it as an interim solution IMHO. To buy time for their own processes.

Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by bicolao on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:03AM (#25845396)
It's confusing though because it's to be followed up with mid to high range CPUs as well. So this is a quite long interim period. If they just need a bit more time, outsourcing high end CPUs makes more sense.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by ryneandal on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:52AM (#25847068)
Well they've nuked consumer Optane (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-kills-off-all-optane...) and sold their NAND business (https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/10/26/intel-sk-hynix-nand-sa...) so that should free up some of their own capacity, right?
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by wtallis on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:12AM (#25847313)
Intel's selling off the NAND fabs and never owned a 3D XPoint fab; Optane products are built with 3D XPoint memory fabbed by Micron, with whom they co-developed 3D XPoint.

And it's not cheap or quick to refit a memory fab to produce processors.

Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by ryneandal on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:34AM (#25847595)
Ah, I didn't look too deeply into the NAND sale. In that case, yeah I totally see why they are choosing to outsource to TSMC.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by cma on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:02AM (#25845384)
Isn't it a bigger step than that, as they have to firewall the design team with access to confidential TSMC info now? If they got another process online in 2 years they'd have to have a different team on it or wait another two years or so.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by mkr-hn on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @08:59AM (#25846495)
TSMC could hand Intel everything they know and it wouldn't do them a bit of good before it's no longer relevant. Raw knowledge won't buy machines, train people to maintain them, build factories, tune the manufacturing processes, or make relationships with design partners. By the time Intel gets something running with something they pick up and starts thinking about making deals, TSMC will be off profiting from another breakthrough.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by cma on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:52AM (#25847074)
I've just heard that TSMC requires strict isolation for a period of years for any team that gets the detailed design specs that can lead to process knowledge, and that this now prevents several fabless companies from second sourcing without a second design team. I would think it would be even stricter with a non fabless client competitor like Intel.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by QuesnayJr on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:29AM (#25845634)
I find it surprising that TSMC is going along with it, just because I would think it's hard to be sure some confidential information wouldn't leak. Unless this kind of institutional firewall works better than I think.
Re:Intel outsources Core i3 to TSMC's 5nm process by avs733 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:48AM (#25845782)
If I were to speculate, I would say that tsmc has a diversified enough customer base AND doesn’t see intel as a contract fab competitor. I would imagine if roles were reversed there would be a whole lot more concern.