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Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by lmilcin on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:25AM (#25845111)
There are tools to debug power issues on Linux laptops. I use these from time to time especially when I am going to be sailing for couple of days.

I can use my t440s (7yo) for over 24 hours on three batteries, internal 3 cell, and external 3 cell and 9 cell. I use it for light development, reading PDFs, some web, etc.

There are also laptops that are more Linux friendly than others. It is best to buy laptop specifically for Linux use and do research before the purchase.

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by mstipetic on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:32AM (#25845156)
Maybe I'm being an asshole and should "submit a patch" but I really get annoyed when basic things don't work. I'm happy to debug custom software, but I don't understand how things like battery management isn't solved.

I've used it on many laptops including a fully specced Dell XPS 13 (which burned out after a small spill on the keyboard)

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by lmilcin on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:38AM (#25845193)
Mine was once drenched completely in hot sweet latte and once submerged in mineral water (don't ask how...) It still works with no issues even though both times I had to disassemble completely and wash all parts including motherboard. The mineral water got between lcd leaves so I had to separate, wash and dry individual layers of LCD.

My tip is to always have IPA, distilled water and tools to disassemble and clean your laptop.

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by oAlbe on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:48AM (#25845278)
How do you wash electronic components without causing damage?
Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by lmilcin on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:03AM (#25845397)
Most boards can be washed safely but there are some components that can be damaged.

Safest method is to use distilled, deoxygenated water (aka electronic water) to remove most contaminants, followed by 99% isopropyl alcohol or 96% ethyl alcohol to remove the rest and also water.

Don't skimp on water and alcohol, submerge the board and use brush while submerged, to pull and dilute contaminants.

Just never use tap or mineral water. You can use regular distilled water as long as you do it quickly, but unless it is deoxygenated it will be corroding so don't leave it in water for long.

Alcohol is there mostly to dilute water so that it dries out very quickly. Without alcohol water could stay under components for a long time and kill or damage your board.

Alcohols can damage some plastic components, so don't keep it in alcohol fo too long, either.

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by Ardon on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:09AM (#25847271)
Water is not instantly harmful to unpowered electronics, especially distilled water. Just make sure there's no power and go to town.
Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by lmilcin on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:25AM (#25848296)
I would add that washing with water is normal part of board production. Fluxes are designed to be water soluble and a lot of fluxes are washed with water with addition of saponifiers.

It is also normal to wash a board in ultrasonic cleaner after any rework or at the end of production process (especially in small scale production).

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by frongpik on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:41PM (#25853875)
Is it really worth your time?
Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by lmilcin on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:17AM (#25859682)
Depends. If you decide it is not possible for you to spill on your laptop or the loss of your laptop is worth less than half a day of your time and keeping two bottles one of clean water and one of clean alcohol, then sure, just ignore this.

On the other hand if you own an expensive machine that can be reasonably disassembled (ie. almost anything else than a Mac) and you plan to use it for a long time and you don't have any other insurance against spill, then you might be able to save a lot of money with a very small amount of effort.

My laptop was fully beefed up Lenovo T440s and I live in Poland. In Poland, this laptop represented about 3-4 average monthly salaries. Not much compared to half a day of effort to disassemble, clean and reassemble again.

Half a day assumes you have no idea what you are doing and you are need extra time to figure out what to do, find videos on Internet, figure out why you can't pull a part and what still keeps it in place, etc.

For a person that knows what they are doing this is half an hour of effort.

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by frongpik on Thursday January 21, 2021 @12:01PM (#25861128)
There's also a big risk of repair going wrong. But you're right: I was judging the situation from the SV bubble.
Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by modo_mario on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:52AM (#25845816)
What distro and laptop do you use currently?

It's indeed annoying. More so that it generally is solved but is to be found somewhere in the fragmented linux ecosystem.

I had no issues with my laptop and it worked better than windows which turns it into a jetengine for some reason except for bluetooth earbuds for which i needed a fork of pulseaudio or so....

Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by mstipetic on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @08:12AM (#25845989)
Right now I'm back to osx but I'm really missing a good tiling manager like i3wm. As for the future I'm looking at system76 desktops, but still undecided (especially since apple's m1 hardware)
Re:Can't uninstall Adobe apps without an account (2018) by 3np on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:49AM (#25845793)
That horrible battery life on Ubuntu on an XPS 13 sounds like something else wrong. Several of my coworkers are running exactly that (over different generations even) and it's been with no tweaks.